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TivoHD FAQ: Overview, Using TiVo, Tips, and Issues

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Feb 25, 2009.

  1. stujac

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    What does "4:3 on a 16:9 background" mean? Am I able to record and view a true 16:9 movie in hd?
     
  5. bkdtv

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    That refers to the TiVo menus. Actual programs are recorded and displayed in full 16:9. I clarified the FAQ.

    You can see the TivoHD interface in the Youtube: Basic TiVo functionality (HD, 10min) link.
     
  6. NYHeel

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    If I understand the FAQ above there are 3 options (on a PC) to pull and edit Tivo recordings and then put them either on DVD or a portable device (ipod).

    One option is Videoredo at a cost of $75. This one looks pretty good but I'm not interested in paying $75 for something that I used to do for free with my hacked DTivos with that TY edit software.

    Option 2 is Roxio creator at a cost $70. Seems similar to Videoredo but again don't really want to pay that much money.

    Option 3 is kmttg for free. This seems like the best option as it's free and I think has all of the functionality I'm looking for. I'm not great with computers but I'm ok and I'm pretty good at following instructions so I presume I can install and use this program.

    Are those the only 3 options for a pc to pull, edit, and transfer to portable device or dvd? I left out Tivo desktop plus as it seems to not be able to edit and transfer to DVD. Is that true? Obviously I have my own burning program but I need something that can edit and create the Vob files for a dvd (and mpg files for an ipod).

    Thanks for the help.
     
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    Once TiVo Desktop is installed, you can use most DVD authoring applications, not just the ones I listed. VideoRedo is touted primarily for the ease of editing recordings and removing commercials.

    To download recordings with conversion for mobile devices like the iPod, I would highly recommend kmttg. The kmttg application isn't pretty, but the functionality is unmatched. Installation is much easier than it was before, because the author (Moyeki) posted a zip with all of the required tools, eliminating the need to download them separately from different locations.
     
  8. userdoba

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    I'm just beginning the exploration of Tivo as an option to my Comcast DVR. Your original post (02-25-2009) was amazing and quite comprehensive. It has raised some questions in my mind. First, I was under the impression that the series 3 Tivo was different than the TivoHD that sells for approximately $300. Your post seems to imply that they are the same. Does everything you said in your post apply to the TivoHD? You also said that you can download programs from Tivo directly to a PC by logging on to the Tivo which acts as an internet server. If this can be done, it seems unnecessary to purchase a Tivo wireless adapter and communicate with my PC through my wireless network. Am I correct?
    Thank you,
    userdoba
     
  9. stujac

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    The Series 3 preceded the TivoHD and is different but not by much. It's no longer available although you can probably pick up a used one or a refurb. Just about everything you read about the TivoHD applies to the Series 3. You have to download programs from your Tivo drive to a program such as TivoDesktop or other applications. You do have to be connected; either wired or wirelessly. The TivoHd and Series 3 both act as servers though, just like a PS3.
     
  10. bkdtv

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    The TivoHD is an updated version of the TiVo Series3 that uses newer, more integrated components to cut costs. Functionality is identical.

    The TivoHD is still considered to be part of the "Series3 family," because it offers the same functionality. In fact, the TivoHD box still mentions "Series3," albeit in much smaller letters.

    TiVo stopped selling the original Series3 model about a year ago.

    Yes. In fact, this post was written with the TivoHD in mind.

    The TiVo is directly accessible only through your local network. You can access it with a web browser because it runs a web server in the background. However, that does not mean it is on the Internet and accessible from anywhere. When you download from the TiVo, you download the files over your local network, not over the Internet. Even if your Internet goes down, that does not affect the ability to access the TiVo.

    Note the TiVo has a 10/100Mbps ethernet connection. If you run an ethernet cable, or use a coax->ethernet or powerline->ethernet adapter, then there is no need for the wireless adapter.
     
  11. userdoba

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    Thanks for the clarification bkdtv. I was hoping to avoid having to connect the Tivo to my network, because my router is 802.11n, and the USB adapter does not support 802.11n. I suppose I could string an ethernet cable under the house from the router to the Tivo which would be in another room about 20 feet away.
    userdoba
     
  12. bkdtv

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    As far as I know, all 802.11n routers support 802.11g. Assuming you have a good wireless signal, you wouldn't see much difference when downloading over 802.11g vs. 802.11n anyway, as TiVo -> PC transfer throughput (speed) is limited by the CPU in the DVR.

    Now, if you got another TiVo at some point for multi-room viewing, there would be a definite advantage to wired, 802.11n, coax networking, or powerline AV networking over 802.11g.
     
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    I know that 802.11n routers are downward compatible, but from what I've seen in other posts, the Tivo USB adapter cannot communicate with 80211.n. At any rate, I think I'll try the direct connection. Thanks again for all of your help.
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  14. 911medic

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    The first section still refers to Amazon VOD as being "SD only." It also refers to it as Unbox...is that still what it's called?
    Thanks for the excellent guide, bkdtv. I'll be referring my dad to it, as he's interested. The most recent Consumer Reports discusses TiVo, but has some erroneous info about the HD (specifically that it cannot record one show and watch another simultaneously).
     
  15. jilter

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    Can I use my cable box as the tuner for the TivoHD instead of messing with cable cards
    (which sounds like a giant hassle)?
    Thanks!
     
  16. bkdtv

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    No.

    The TivoHD replaces the cable box. It has two built-in tuners, but no means to record the output from another device.
     
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    bkdtv,

    I wanted to confirm something from what you stated regarding using 802.11n to ensure full speed MRV transfers. When you state this, are you referring to connecting an 802.11n AP in bridge mode to the Ethernet port of the TiVo? And using it to connect to your wireless network?

    Any reason why this would necessarily be any faster than doing it with a less expensive 802.11g AP bridge? I can push ~50Mbps through my 802.11g Router and AP bridges.

    Or is the reason when you say the 802.11g drops down to around 18-19Mbps transfer rate based on assumption of using the TiVo Wireless G Adaptor (which I am currently using.) That is, is the bottle neck in via the USB interface or for some crazy reason does TiVo HD boxes require a significant data transfer overhead to maintain an effect transfer rate even in hardwired networks. I would think that it has one bottleneck via the Ethernet path and another via the USB path. But you could be referring to the typical transfer rates that most people observe on 802.11g which is closer to the 19Mbps that you mentioned.

    I ask this because I'm considering getting a 2nd TiVoHD, and I have an 802.11g AP used as a bridge by my existing DVR - just need to setup a switch behind it if I want to also wire it up to my existing TiVoHD. And if I get a second TiVoHD, I'm wandering if I really should update to 802.11n, which I haven't seen a valid need for to date, or simply get another 802.11g AP for the living room, where the 2nd TiVoHD will go.

    CCourtney
     
  19. CCourtney

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    The TiVo Wireless G Adaptor supports 802.11g and 802.11b connections. All 802.11n Routers support connections to 802.11n, 802.11g and 802.11b and most also support 802.11a.

    So a TiVo Wireless G adaptor will work with a 802.11n router, it just will operate using the 802.11g protocols.

    CCourtney
     
  20. MPSAN

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    Two quick questioins...

    I just got my 3 TiVo HD's and set one up. I have sw 11c so Netflix is OK, too. I do not have my CableCards yet, but told it that I would get them and my guide is fine...I just can not tune above ch 31 'till I get them.

    1. When I go to Find TV Shows on TiVo.com, and look for listings they say there are none. My TiVo shows them all.

    2. Do I need to Opt-in? I had heard that this was a good idea, but somewhere I thought that once you do, if you ever want to opt-out it takes shows, etc with it. Any reason I should not OPT-IN? Do I need this in order to see the channel listings online?

    *******UPDATE*********

    This morning my guide is OK online.

    Now I need to see if I can see photo's on my TiVoHD from my PC. It did not see my PC before...still do not know if it does or not.
     

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