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Tivo without cable card

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by kturcotte, Dec 14, 2013.

  1. kturcotte

    kturcotte New Member

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    We have high speed Internet, and there are also some basic, low level channels included with this, in the clear. I have the Baaic Roamio, since I use it with an antenna, but was wondering if I could connect the cable to it instead and get those basic channels without a cable card?
     
  2. TC25D

    TC25D New Member

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    Why not just try it? :confused:
     
  3. BruceShultes

    BruceShultes New Member

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    Just remember that the Basic Roamio is either OTA or cable.

    There is no way for it to do both at the same time.
     
  4. hamz9561

    hamz9561 New Member

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    Also remember that the basic channels must be digital not analog.
     
  5. gigaguy

    gigaguy New Member

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    I did this to a lifetimed Premiere I just set up in the bedroom via cable, no cablecard or tuning adapter. it gets lots of std def channels, #2-77, only the networks in HD, like ABC NBC FOX PBS. We have Time Warner and they do switched SDV on most channels so you need the tuning adapter and cablecard to get more HD channels here.
     
  6. BigJimOutlaw

    BigJimOutlaw Active Member

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    It can be done, but you won't get guide data for the clear QAM channels unless they are mapped directly to "normal" channel numbers (like channel 5, 6, 10 etc.) If they're channels like 101-1, 101-2, 101-3, there won't be data.
     
  7. wmcbrine

    wmcbrine Ziphead

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    You could try an eBay CableCard to do the mapping. Works for me. YMMV.
     
  8. kturcotte

    kturcotte New Member

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    I thought you couldn't actually purchase/own a legitimate cable card?
     
  9. BigJimOutlaw

    BigJimOutlaw Active Member

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    There are "blank" cards on ebay. But the cable co won't activate or pair them. Some folks have had luck inserting the blank cards and getting the local/unencrypted channels to work correctly. Very ymmv. You can try it. Worst case, you're out about $10.
     
  10. lessd

    lessd Active Member

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    If I sold a cable card that was paired to someone in my area they would get cable basic without pairing, but I don't know if the internal cable card timer would time out sometime in the future. As a note I had left a TiVo with a paired cable card unplugged for about 45 days, when I plug the unit back in I could only get basic cable, called Comcast and had them hit my card(s) and all worked after that, no re-pairing was needed.
     
  11. wmcbrine

    wmcbrine Ziphead

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    We're talking about using unpaired, unactivated cards to do mapping of open QAM channels only. This doesn't get you any more channels than you can already tune without a card, just puts them in the right slots to match the TiVo's guide data.
     

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