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TiVo UI Control via Telnet - No Hacking Required!

Discussion in 'TiVo Underground' started by Omikron, Apr 30, 2008.

  1. Jan 2, 2012 #601 of 692
    astrohip

    astrohip Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    How do I get a TiVo name change to appear in TiVo Remote?

    I hooked up a new Elite about a week ago. The first time I ran TiVo Remote it displayed what I am guessing is some sort of model #/name: DVR-658A. I have since renamed it, and that rename has populated down everywhere--the other TiVos, online, TiVo Desktop, etc. Everywhere except... TiVo Remote.

    Is it cached somewhere? Or something else I need to do to get the name change to pass thru?

    Thanks!
     
  2. Jan 2, 2012 #602 of 692
    Ben321

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    I have TIVO Series-2 device. Will this work on that too? Or will I need to use a different TCP port number for telnet? Or is this simply impossible to do with a Series-2 device?

    I've plugged in a "crossover" ethernet cable so I don't need to use a router. I want to telnet the device. But it won't even go on the network. Its first action to test if it's on a network is to check if it's on the INTERNET, which means connecting to TIVO's server. I don't have a way to get the internet service in my computer (via wireless) to be "shared" to my other network adapter (the one the ethernet is connected to). So my TIVO never "sees" the internet, so it REFUSES to connect to my LAN. How to I get it to join my LAN as a device on my network WITHOUT connecting to the internet? I want to do this telnet thing but I can't get it to work as long as it fails the "internet test". Is there any trick to get it to connect to my LAN without attempting to connect to the internet (which automatically causes it to disconnect from my LAN upon failure to connect to the internet)? It doesn't even respond to the PING 192.168.1.101 command sent from the windows command prompt. Collasoft MAC Scanner doesn't display the device. It's as if it isn't evven connected to my network though it DIRECTLY connected to my computer's ethernet port with a "crossover" ethernet cable.

    Any help here would be GREATLY appreciated.
     
  3. Jan 3, 2012 #603 of 692
    wmcbrine

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    If you're talking about my program, the names are definitely not cached; they're collected at startup. It's interesting that the situation you describe is even possible; I wouldn't have expected it.

    Did you try rebooting the affected TiVo?

    TiVo Inc. has not implemented the TCP/IP remote service for the Series 2. There's no technical reason they couldn't, AFAICT, but they didn't. And at this point, they won't. Sorry.
     
  4. Jan 4, 2012 #604 of 692
    astrohip

    astrohip Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    Yes, your program. Which I love and my wife could not live without. :up: I believe it rebooted yesterday during a power outage (note to self: why didn't the UPS work--need to look into that). I'll check tonight and see if that updated anything.
     
  5. Jan 4, 2012 #605 of 692
    morac

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    If your UPS is like mine, then the battery is too old and needs to be replaced. Batteries in UPSes only last around 3 to 5 years.
     
  6. motech

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    does anyone know if the zoom commands works over IP?
    i don't see it anywhere….

    i hate that there is no exit button on tivo's.
     
  7. wmcbrine

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    Sure. The IRCODE for it is WINDOW, the original name for the "Zoom" button, which has also been named "Aspect" at times.

    There's also a set of discrete codes to set the specific zoom mode, described a few pages up. These don't correspond to any remote buttons.

    What would that do?
     
  8. motech

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    when in tivo central - how do you get out of tivo central without pressing live tv?
    i say without pressing live tv because sometimes you are playing back a recorded show and press tivo central by mistake…. whats the best way to get back to the show you were watching ?
     
  9. motech

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    and on top of that, if you are watching tv - and you press guide, whats the best way to get right of the guide?
     
  10. windracer

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    If you have a Premiere, you would use Zoom because the recorded show you were watching will be in the video preview window still. If you have an older model TiVo, there's no way to quickly go back if you press the TiVo button. You'll need to go back to the NPL and resume playing the show.

    Just press Guide again.
     
  11. motech

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    ok so i figured those out a while ago.
    i was just trying to make sure i didn't know of a better way.

    i was also pointing out why i thought tivo needed an exit button
     
  12. motech

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    actually what I'm hoping is that in 20.2 when in the new guide - zoom will work the same way it does in tivo central…basically as an exit button.
     
  13. wmcbrine

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    "Clear" will remove the Guide, as well as other overlay displays (Info, Play bar, etc.). The left arrow lets you back out of most screens -- admittedly, not TiVo Central. However, I have a hard time picturing an Exit button working differently there. Conceptually, TiVo Central is the base level; there's nothing to exit to from there. You're asking for Live TV -- or a playing recording? -- to be treated as the base level instead.

    Edit: Although, as I think of it, Live TV is treated as the base level in one context: If you leave the TiVo on TiVo Central, it will eventually switch to Live TV, in an attempt to prevent burn-in.
     
  14. motech

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    there should be one common button to get you back to a base level.
    if you open guide, you have to press guide or clear or live tv to get back to tv.
    that clear button is dangerous as if someone is used to pressing that to get out of a guide then they might push it by mistake when viewing the now playing list. which will then delete something they didn't want to delete.
    if you are in tivo menus, you have a different set of buttons that will get you out of that menu. zoom, live tv, etc.
    how does zoom make sense?

    its just continuity I'm looking for.
    im a crestron programmer and I'm trying to make this easy for my clients to understand.
    so i have to tell them that when in guide, press guide again to get out. and when in tivo menus, press zoom to get out.

    I'm hoping that in 20.2 the new guide is treated like the tivo menus, and zoom will exit back to whatever you are watching below it as well. that way zoom will work as an "exit" button the same way in both those scenarios.

    keep in mind that cable, directv, dish, etc all have an exit button. and for good reason i think.
     
  15. pcw132

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    Skavan,

    I have both a tivo and a slingbox, the delay is not so much the slingbox as it is the component/composite connection vs the HDMI port. there seems to be a delay in responce if set to hdmi. as a test i had a hdmi to component device that when connected to the slingbox was much faster but still a small delay for the video/network sync on slingbox.

     
  16. getgray

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    How did you get the live feed on your PC?
     
  17. ffneil

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  18. ffneil

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    Does anyone use Cinemar's Main lobby to control TIVO?
     
  19. ffneil

    ffneil New Member

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    Does anyone use HomeSeer to control TIVO?
     
  20. ffneil

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