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TiVo transcoder and IP-based set top box coming 'by the end of*summer'

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by jfalkingham, Feb 23, 2012.

  1. BigJimOutlaw

    BigJimOutlaw Well-Known Member

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    Oh good, according to Megazone Tivo is going to be at The Cable Show next week. Maybe we'll get some more tidbits about either of these boxes on Monday. From Tivo's press blurb:

    "New this year, TiVo is showcasing its whole-home and TV-everywhere solutions, which offer the same award-winning TiVo experience on every screen, big or small. "

    Tivo showed off the Premiere Q and Preview at this event last year. Maybe we'll get lucky and see some hardware.

    Article: http://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/05/19/sorry-for-the-silence-and-the-cable-show-next-week/
     
  2. megazone

    megazone Hardcore TiVo Geek

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    As Big Jim noted TiVo will be at The Cable Show this week and I have an appointment to meet with them on Monday morning and I'll certainly be looking for clarification on their plans.

    What I said earlier about the IP STB coming to retail is my understanding of what I've been told to date. But I don't work for TiVo, clearly, and I can't speak for them. And plans can always change right up until the last second so until the boxes are actually on retail shelves nothing is 100% certain. But my understanding is that the IP STB will be offered to both MSOs and via retail, while the TiVo Preview is unlikely to come to retail.

    I've seen questions on why the MSOs would want the IP STB instead of the Preview - and that's simple: cost. The Preview is more expensive as it has more hardware, and it requires a CableCARD - more cost again. Look at other offerings out there, like the DISH Hopper. The tuners are on the main box and the client boxes stream from those tuners. That's the concept for the IP STB. You could have an XL4 with IP STBs and only have one CableCARD for the home. (Or perhaps an XL6, which would max out what an M-Card can do.)
     
  3. davezatz

    davezatz Funkadelic

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    Maybe... :D

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  4. tomm1079

    tomm1079 New Member

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    i see an IPad and a phone. Im looking forward to both Megazone and Zatz write ups!
     
  5. MichaelK

    MichaelK New Member

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    had the "everything delivered" shot from the amazon prime threads railing about the "one box" ;-)

    But can't wait to hear the reports!
     
  6. BigJimOutlaw

    BigJimOutlaw Well-Known Member

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    Can't quite make out the devices in the bedrooms but thanks for the tease. :D

    Looks like it's either flat or shaped like the bottom of a pyramid. lol.
     
  7. BigJimOutlaw

    BigJimOutlaw Well-Known Member

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    http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=221130&site=lr_cable

    BOSTON -- TiVo Inc. (NASDAQ: TIVO), the creator of and a leader in advanced television services, including digital video recorders (DVRs), for consumers, content distributors and consumer electronics manufacturers, today announced two major enhancements to its whole-home viewing solution. Its IP set-top box, delivers the TiVo experience on secondary televisions throughout the home. TiVo Stream, provides transcoding to enable content viewing on mobile devices.

    Through these new products, operators working with TiVo can give their subscribers the content they want on any screen within the home, including secondary televisions, tablets and smart phones and all through the same easy-to-use TiVo interface. For example, the IP set-top box compliments the home’s primary TiVo DVR by extending the TiVo experience onto secondary TVs including live and recorded television viewing. TiVo Stream delivers content to a customer’s tablet or mobile device, creating a cohesive viewing experience no matter how they choose to watch their programs. Both products are optimized for operator distribution, including automated provisioning and activation, and the low-capital costs that operators demand.

    Tom Rogers, President and CEO, TiVo Inc. said, “Consumers not only want an enjoyable TV experience, but now demand choice and the flexibility to watch content on multiple devices and screens within the home. TiVo has worked with our operator customers to create a suite of affordable companion devices that deliver a cohesive experience regardless of the screen the customer wants to use.”
     
  8. BigJimOutlaw

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    So we have one of the names.

    The transcoder is the Tivo Stream. The IP box is still nameless apparently.

    The press release suggests they're both MSO products, which is expected. But this doesn't rule out retail.
     
  9. BigJimOutlaw

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  10. davezatz

    davezatz Funkadelic

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    My post is up and here's a pic from The Cable Show floor.

    http://www.zatznotfunny.com/2012-05/tivo-stream-ip-stb-set-for-fall-launch/

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    Highlights:

    • TiVo transcoder gets a name: Stream
    • TiVo IP-STB remains nameless
    • Summer retail launch for both moved to fall

    PS My partner Mari is going to try and get us better pictures later today. Although, MZ may beat us to the punch and I'm sure he'll have a deeper dive as he typically does.

    PPS There will be a press release. Not sure what time it'll cross the wires. 8AM is typical for TiVo.
     
  11. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    SO is the box on the right the TiVo Stream? If it is, then that looks much larger and different than the picture a couple of posts up. The IP STB looks small but has a funky shape.

    Although the IP STB is what I'm mainly interested in. I plan on selling my Premiere XL and replacing it with the IP STB. And I'll probably get the TiVo Stream box just for the heck of it.
     
  12. davezatz

    davezatz Funkadelic

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    The box on the left is the IP STB. The box on the right is the Preview. The Stream is not in this photo.
     
  13. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    OK. Thanks.

    Do they show how the IP STB will work with multiple Elites errr XL4s in the home? How does it decide what tuner to grab?
     
  14. davezatz

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    My pics were taken before the show floor opened and I'm not actually in attendance... ;) We'll have to wait for Gabe (Tech of the Hub) or Megazone to fill us in after they go hands on.
     
  15. Aero 1

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    will the ip box be moca?
     
  16. davezatz

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    Yah, it has MoCA. Presumably, we'll also be able to use Ethernet in lieu of MoCA for retail.
     
  17. Aero 1

    Aero 1 Member

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    sweet. i was counting on moca so i dont have to run a drop to my kitchen.
     
  18. aindik

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    Does my provider have to bless the IP STB or can I just use it?

    Will the Stream be able to stream to competitor STBs (like Roku or AppleTV) or just mobile devices? If I could replace 3 DVRs with one XL4, one Stream, and 3 AppleTVs, that would be pretty cool. If I need to buy 3 IP STBs, that would be less cool.

    Can the IP STBs do Amazon stuff? If so, Prime streaming, or download only?
     
  19. davezatz

    davezatz Funkadelic

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    The IP STB is supposed to replicate the functionality of the Premiere, minus those CableCARDs. So I'd think it'd do Netflix (for retail). Amazon is interesting - their app hasn't been updated and they download the videos, versus stream. Not sure if the IP STB will have sufficient storage or if they would support it.

    Right now the Stream is being pitched for smartphones and tablets. Could they make a Roku client? Probably. Will they? Probably not - they'd want you to buy the IP STB instead. Apple TV only has apps from companies/services Apple has partnered with, so I doubt you'll see it there.
     
  20. aindik

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    If I d/l an Amazon video to my DVR, can I watch it on another TV via the IPSTB? Can I watch it on my iPad via the Stream?

    If I have to buy a TiVo IP STB for TiVo, an AppleTV for iTunes and Airplay, and a Roku for Amazon Prime, I'm going to run out of HDMI inputs pretty fast.

    Can the Stream do live TV, or only recordings?
     

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