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TiVo transcoder and IP-based set top box coming 'by the end of*summer'

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by jfalkingham, Feb 23, 2012.

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    jfalkingham

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    bradleys

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    aadam101

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    Vect0r

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    Can NOT wait for the Preview STB!!! SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY TIVO!!!
     
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    nrc

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    Great news. It will be interesting to see how they price the IP STB.
     
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    BigJimOutlaw

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    I'm somewhat hesitant to call the IP-STB a Preview yet. The "IP" infers the box doesn't have a tuner. The Preview has a tuner and cablecard slot. It's a full-blown STB.

    It might be a Preview, but Tivo would need to go through another waiver process first. They may do that, or they could bypass that entirely by foregoing tuners and going with a true IP-only Roku-like extender. Having no other information to go on yet, I'm kind of leaning in that direction.
     
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    CoxInPHX

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    If this as a STB, Were is the HDMI?

    I would still like to see a full blown retail Preview as an option too.
     
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    Leon WIlkinson

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    So this would let you stream from all TiVos S1-S4?
     
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    Leon WIlkinson

    Leon WIlkinson TiVo Gone Wild

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    Quake97

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    This should be good timing. My free DVR from FiOS comes up at the end of July.

    Joe
     
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    bradleys

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    Very doubtful...
     
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    bradleys

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    Interesting question... Are we sure that TiVo's existing waiver couldn't be leveraged for this product? I haven't read it - just wondering out loud.

    On one hand it makes seemingly no sense for TiVo to add yet another disparate product into inventory - on the other hand a tunerless extender may be the only approach that makes sense for the retail market.

    Consider this:
    A preview with a cablecard and guide data would need to pay a license fee for that data... An IP device (like the iPad) that uses an existing TiVo tuner and associated guide data apparently does not.

    That approach should allow TiVo to sell the device without a subscription just like the iPad app with the transcoder.

    On top of that we know that TiVo is ramping up its app development platform...

    So a Roku type device that is also able to borrow the guide data and spare tuner from an existing TiVo? And no need for a service fee on this additional device?

    All conjecture at this point, but I am liking the approach.

    I currently have one TiVo split between two rooms with an HDMI splitter - this could be a far easier and elegant solution.
     
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    wmcbrine

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    S1 TiVos don't even do MRV/TTG.

    In S2 and S3 TiVos, the transfers aren't designed to be real-time, but there's no theoretical reason you couldn't MRV a program and just not store it. However, the fact that TiVo hasn't done that with the Premiere (i.e., it can't "stream" from an S2 or S3) is probably indicative of what you'll see on the new device.
     
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    ort

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    So this would let you stream TiVo to an iPhone or iPad?

    How much do we think something like this would cost? Rough guess?

    $200 bucks? $100 bucks?
     
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    bradleys

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    It will allow you to both stream and MRV videos from the TiVo to the iPad. From what I have seen, if you stream live TV it will take over your television - one or the other, not both screens.


    Price? - Hard to say... My guess $100 to $150 with no service fee.
     
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    sirfergy

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    I hope the Preview lets you manage recordings/season passes.
     
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    davezatz

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    I have a new pic of the transcoder... and someone mentioned being surveyed about a $169 price point.

    [​IMG]
     
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    RangerOne

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    Interesting. When did TiVo start to fall in love with yellow? I've now noticed is very prevalent on their website too.
     
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    BigJimOutlaw

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    The FCC ruling seemed to be for a specific product (Elite). One of the parties who commented on Tivo's waiver request did suggest to the FCC they eliminate the "analog rule" entirely, but the FCC shot that down and said they'll examine requests on a case-by-case basis. So I don't believe it's a blanket waiver that can cover the Preview too.

    There's merit to both approaches. I agree the Roku approach is an easier sell for retail. And I'm totally there, especially if it can borrow a tuner for live streaming. That'd be great for secondary and tertiary TVs.

    Edit: Megazone just posted a good, detailed writeup about the IP-STB:

    http://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/02/24/tivo-to-launch-ip-only-stb-this-summer/
     
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    WhiskeyTango

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    So it's not even a retail product, it's aimed at the MSO's.
     

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