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TiVo Suggestions in the UK - Update

Discussion in 'TiVo Series 1 - UK' started by TiVoPony, Sep 29, 2008.

  1. Nov 5, 2008 #361 of 546
    DeadKenny

    DeadKenny New Member

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    Just the slight problem of it only having one HD channel currently :(

    And worse it's ITV, and I would have only been interested for F1, but that's going back to the Beeb, thankfully (no adverts:up: ).
     
  2. Nov 5, 2008 #362 of 546
    nickf

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    There's BBC HD as well as ITV... and I'm (not so) secretly hoping that they manage to bring us the GP in HD next year.
     
  3. Nov 6, 2008 #363 of 546
    ghstone

    ghstone Novice hacker

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    Yeah, The Beeb is a full HD channel, while ITV requires interaction pressing of the button to go to HD if available. Niot sure we'll get F1 in HD though as the actual camera work is done by the local TV company - in our case BBC (even when it was ITV they used BBC O/B units at Silverstone).

    So it will depend on whether they choose to invest in HD for those broadcasts, or Bernie mandates it.

    Back to the real debate though, sewems to me there are too many characters of that 12/14 character ID being used for Type (we don't need EP for Episode there are 35 variants without getting into special characters), and too many allocated for the episode number - I've not got into code level hacking yet but doesn't this offer scope for a conversion which won't mess anything up ?

    On the 'release the code' argumernt, I'd say they never will - it contains TiVos patented things (strangely enough the :up: and :thumbsdown: and proper season pass stuff), release the code and it will be popping up on Sky+, and that would never do...


    Oh, and for those who reckon Sky+ offers similar functions for similar cost, you haven't factored in replacing the unit every 12-18 months when the hard drive fails; Or the time wasted, and cost of popcorn and beer, when you sit down to watch a program it should have recorded but decided not to.:)
     
  4. Nov 6, 2008 #364 of 546
    Pugwash

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    Japan have been filming in HD for years, so there's one race you might be guaranteed?
     
  5. Nov 6, 2008 #365 of 546
    martink0646

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    Hi,

    F1 in HD on the Beeb is looking good. If you look at the thread below and read from post 157 on you'll find some interesting info/speculation;

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=394830&page=6

    From my knowledge & research on this topic I have discovered various things including the fact that all FOM's (Formula One Management) cameras are all HD and that the feed already exists, it just isn't given to anyone.....yet. All camera work is controlled by FOM through their contract with Sislink (who bought the Beeb's OB unit). Hosyt broadcasters use their own cameras for their on air talent, grid walks etc but the main feed is centralized. There is also a post from another forum from a BBC engineer responsiblr for the interactive red button stuff and it looks like we are going to get 4 extra feeds for timing, in car, highlights etc although they wont be HD.

    Have a read!

    Martin
     
  6. Nov 6, 2008 #366 of 546
    Goooner1

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    Can't say I've had either problem with my Sky HD box.
     
  7. Nov 6, 2008 #367 of 546
    cyril

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    I get the odd failed recording (for no real reason) on all 4 of my SkyHD boxes, though my new Pace one is perhaps 5% more reliable than the original Thomson Sky+HD boxes.
     
  8. Nov 6, 2008 #368 of 546
    TCM2007

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    It's often said that TiVo has the patent on thumbs. I've looked through their patents list, and I can't see it.

    They do have a patent on the whole idea of a PVR mind...
     
  9. Nov 6, 2008 #369 of 546
    TCM2007

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    Did you know there are more Sky+s in the UK than there are TiVos in the US.

    How depressing is that...
     
  10. Nov 6, 2008 #370 of 546
    dvdfever

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    There's a lot of stupid people in the UK. How else could one explain Labour getting elected for 3 terms in a row?
     
  11. Nov 7, 2008 #371 of 546
    cyril

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    Same as Sky+ - lack of any decent competition :(

    On the plus side more people who have Sky+ will be more likely to see the value of having a decent PVR and we may be more likely to pickup a Series 8 TiVo in 2019 when you can get a quad tuner HD multiroom box with a few TB of storage for 50 quid i.e. hardware costs are negligible so the differentiator will be superior software i.e. TiVo
     
  12. Nov 9, 2008 #372 of 546
    taid

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    Suggests that Tivo's marketing people in the States are as bad as the ones thay had over here ..
     
  13. Nov 9, 2008 #373 of 546
    Pete77

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    No by then all tv will be IPStreamed and available on demand at any time so there will be no need for multiple tuners or recording it on a local hard drive.

    Also rights management will have been tightened up so it is impossible to watch a broadcast program after a week or a month and so there will be no point in having huge hard drive capacity on a local PVR.

    PCs with local hard drives will obviously disappear in favour of a Cloud type setup with dumb terminals as the great unwashed clearly cannot be expected to manage or carry out their own backups. Also that makes it even easier for the government to be checking up on what everyone is up to.
     
  14. Nov 9, 2008 #374 of 546
    TCM2007

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    ...and we'll drive flying cars and eat meals in pill form...
     
  15. Nov 9, 2008 #375 of 546
    Pete77

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    Flying cars are at least 30+ years away as the level of computer power and centralised networking of all flying cars control programs required to do it safely and reliably in an automated fashion is still a long way off.

    I don't see meals in pill form ever happening unless we all turn in to Cybermen.
     
  16. Benedict

    Benedict Always Thinking!

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    Flying cars have been around for over 100 years!

    Invented by the Wright brothers in 1903.
     
  17. Pete77

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    But they require high levels of skill and long hours of training to fly.

    We are talking here of cars that any old idiot can safely fly and where Air Traffic Control is completely automated and near totally safer. Also they wouldn't fly higher than say 200 foot above the ground and only take to the air when the roads were too congested.
     
  18. Benedict

    Benedict Always Thinking!

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    I suspect the same may have been said of the motor vehicle when it was first invented.
     
  19. Ashley

    Ashley Aibo nut

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    I want my own jet pack!
     
  20. dvdfever

    dvdfever New Member

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    I've never understood why people think that's a good idea. It's as if the people who came up with it have never had a dropped internet connection.

    And then there's the government situation you mention, after which they'll put a copy of all your data on a memory stick and then erm... oh, where did I put it...
     

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