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TiVo Stream via VPN?

Discussion in 'TiVo Stream' started by davezatz, Sep 7, 2012.

  1. Feb 2, 2013 #81 of 135
    windracer

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    Wow, interesting. I'll grab it just in case it gets pulled for some reason. :D
     
  2. Feb 3, 2013 #82 of 135
    morac

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    The OpenVPN app only supports TUN bridging, it doesn't support TAP bridging do to "limitations in iOS", so unless I'm mistaken it won't work for streaming purposes.
     
  3. Feb 3, 2013 #83 of 135
    windracer

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    Yep, I just discovered the same thing while trying to set it up and doing some research. Oh well!
     
  4. Feb 7, 2013 #84 of 135
    davidahn

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    I've been drooling over the possibility of using a TiVo Stream as SlingBox since they announced it. Anyone have any simple, reliable solutions? I was hoping to use an off-the-shelf Netgear FVS-318N, a gigabit VPN router. Anyone use this model or one like it?
     
  5. Feb 10, 2013 #85 of 135
    gamo62

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    Anyone here provide some insight on how to setup the VPN – PPTP on Windows 8 x64? Thanks.
     
  6. Feb 10, 2013 #86 of 135
    Snake Plissken

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    I would love to do this
     
  7. Feb 11, 2013 #87 of 135
    mattack

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    Dumb question, if you want a slingbox, why not just get a slingbox?

    or do you just want to be able to do this AS WELL as locally download/stream in your house?
     
  8. Feb 11, 2013 #88 of 135
    Fofer

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    The IR-blaster-based control of a Slingbox is very, very clunky, and the PQ suffers due to the transcode. The UI isn't pretty. And it takes over your TiVo so anyone else at home must watch what you're watching. Essentially that whole "solution" is a kludge.

    TiVo Stream is much more elegant, and control is IP-based. If only it could stream outside the home (and adapt to network conditions,) it'd be a near-perfect solution.
     
  9. Feb 12, 2013 #89 of 135
    Arcady

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    I love my SlingBox. It is connected to an extra Premiere that nobody will ever watch while I am not home. And I can use MRS to watch content from any other Premiere.

    I don't know what's clunky about the remote control. I only use PLAY and 30-sec skip and 8-sec back on it. Works fine.
     
  10. Feb 15, 2013 #90 of 135
    Bigg

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    This is clearly something to do to prove it can be done, not because it is in any way practical. If you're practical, you'd be getting a Slingbox or just torrenting shows or something.

    Too bad the Slingbox can't be programmed to control the TiVo over IP like a Crestron system would.
     
  11. Mar 6, 2013 #91 of 135
    Gaidin43

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    Does anyone have updates on getting this to work? I have LTE iPhone 5 jail broken and would love to be able to stream (almost live TV) from my home tivo to my phone or iPad while traveling.

    TiVo stream has so much potential in the TiVo Eco system. If you have a premiere or a premiere xl and the TiVo app to set recordings you could log on your phone app, have it start recording a show, say the live news, and watch it via vpn on your phone anywhere.

    I have been trying to configure vpn to get this to work since speed isn't an issue and I have 30 download and 20+ upload on TiVo/home network side and about the same for my LTE phone. So network speed won't be the issue.
     
  12. Mar 6, 2013 #92 of 135
    GTXgp

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    I figured out a complicated workaround that involves transfering to TiVo Desktop, converting .tivo to .avi or .mpg, then I can push to iOS using VLC. Not exactly the easiest process.

    I ordered a Slingbox350 this week and I'm going to hook it to a guest-room TiVo that gets little use. I will see how well that works for streaming outside the house, but I would still like to be able to transfer when I am away from home. For example, if I am gone for a week and want to transfer a show to watch on the plane home.

    I am going out of the country for a month in April and it sucks that TiVo has no native solution for me.
     
  13. Mar 15, 2013 #93 of 135
    Gaidin43

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    Anyone else been able to find a more streamline vpn solution to this yet? I've been trying to get this to work all sorts of ways to watch "live" TV on my phone while away from the home wifi.
     
  14. Mar 18, 2013 #94 of 135
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    windracer

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    Well, I tried it. :rolleyes: But I didn't have a Stream to test with. I originally posted that here. I don't think I ever got confirmation from anyone else that that specific combination worked. :(
     
  16. Mar 18, 2013 #96 of 135
    kylen

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    I keep meaning to try that but haven't had a chance to configure the OpenVPN server on my Windows machine--haven't figured out the config files and how to generate all those certificates for windows (didn't want to re-image my existing router with DD-WRT).
     
  17. Mar 18, 2013 #97 of 135
    Fofer

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    I have a TiVo Premiere and a Stream and a (jailbroken) iPad mini and I'd be willing to try all of that but not so much that I'd have to replace my router. (I'm currently using an Apple Time Capsule that I am happy with.) And at the very least I'd want it to work via WiFi (as I'd rarely connect via 3G/LTE for video streaming.) Anything less and it's not really usable for me, realistically speaking.

    I do have EasyVPN installed on a Mac on my home network, and I've connected to it in the past using the built-in VPN dialer that iOS includes. But that doesn't seem to work here, when I launch the TiVo app it scans for compatible boxes and doesn't find any...
     
  18. Mar 18, 2013 #98 of 135
    Fofer

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    I also note that jailbreak tweak "3G Unrestrictor" is able to "trick" the Time Warner TV app to let me connect to my home VPN when I am on remote WiFi and use the app to watch live TV. (This app normally requires you to be physically at home, connected to the same network where your cable modem is.)
    Kinda cool that a tweak normally used to make a 3G connection appear like a WiFi connection (for things like FaceTime) has this side benefit of allowing us to "cloak" a VPN connection too.

    And I'm using another jailbreak tweak, xCon, to trick the app into launching on a jailbroken device (as this is also precluded by the native app.)

    Interestingly enough, the app only detects the VPN and prevents access when your connection is over WiFi; it doesn't pose an issue if your connection is over 3G/4G/LTE. Alas, with data caps these days I'm not keen to stream live TV that way.

    I will also note that I could NOT get "My3G" to allow the same thing. It works fine (for me) with 3G Unrestrictor, but not My3G.

    I also tried adding TiVo app to the 3G Unrestrictor app to try the same, but still end up getting the same "no compatible boxes found" after the app scans for one. Bummer. I feel like we're really close, we just need to find the correct ingredients...
     
  19. Mar 18, 2013 #99 of 135
    Gaidin43

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    XCon and unrestrictor 3G seem like they are both Necessary to get this to work as well as a VPN app that handles multistream. The issue that some will have is they will want to use this on a wifi away from home which will require another step in the process to get it to work. I have unlimited LTE so I'm not worries about data limits but I can see how others would be.

    Maybe we are looking at this wrong. Do you think we can get a tweak from cydia that will mod the TiVo. App to thinking it is in it's home network all the time?
     
  20. Fofer

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    There is a Cydia app already called "UnrestrictPremium2" (intended to allow for AirPlay out from apps that typically restrict this.) I use it to AirPlay (mirror) from the TiVo app to my AppleTV. It also has a feature/toggle called "Fake Home Status" with that exact description -- but it doesn't seem to work here for me in that context.

    Again, this could be because my VPN connection (iOS -> EasyVPN) isn't actually handing multistream.
     

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