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TiVo Stream via VPN?

Discussion in 'TiVo Stream' started by davezatz, Sep 7, 2012.

  1. Nov 4, 2012 #61 of 135
    kylen

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    Has anyone tried Bonjour Beacon on Windows? It looks sort of similar to Network Beacon on the Mac. Though I have no idea what configuration values I need to use.
     
  2. Nov 9, 2012 #62 of 135
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    Dan203

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    Why not? Unless they are getting particular pressure from some partner I can't imagine they'd have anything against it. They want the product to appeal to as many people as possible, so why not add something that might broaden it's appeal?

    Dan
     
  4. Nov 9, 2012 #64 of 135
    morac

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    Because TiVo's MRV/MRS is designed to only work in a household. There's no reason to have it work in a university wide WAN.
     
  5. Nov 9, 2012 #65 of 135
    Fofer

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    To an pre-authorized iPad, though? Would be great.
     
  6. Nov 12, 2012 #66 of 135
    bradleys

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    I thought TiVo had expressed some interst in extending the stream remotely. I don't remember if that was a survey question or a forward looking statement in an interview I read.

    At any rate, If apple does extend Bonjour to the WAN, TiVo may have to make modifications to "prevent" it from working...
     
  7. Nov 20, 2012 #67 of 135
    ligand

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    Hi! I was able to setup my network to stream Tivo over a VPN connection to my iPads. I needed to jailbreak them to allow it to work and I needed to use Guizovpn to make the VPN connection. I worked with the developer to fix a problem whereby the VPN client only allowed the transmission of multicast packets over 3G (not WiFi). He fixed it and now it supports multicast over 3G and WiFi. :)

    I have an asus RT-66U with Shibby's Tomato build on it and configured an OpenVPN server using the "tap" interface.

    So far it works fairly well, although the stream stutters a lot more than it does over local wifi even though I'm on a fairly beefy internet connection. As a side note I was also able to connect to my airplay speakers at home too. :)
     
  8. Nov 21, 2012 #68 of 135
    drewfidelic

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    The biggest difficulty is the Bonjour side, but I've managed to successfully (slowly) download outside of my home network from the Stream by opening those ports in my router to the Tivo devices (both the stream and the XL4 advertise services on Port 80 and my router unsurprisingly doesn't allow to forward traffic to two internal devices, so the Stream was et up as a DMZ host). Then, by advertising the services to the iPad using Network Beacon with the public IP address of my home network as the "proxy address" in Network Beacon on a computer on the same subnet as the iPad, the Tivo app works. So VPN is not technically necessary for remote Stream access, but a willingness to play with the firewall on your home network is.
     
  9. Nov 21, 2012 #69 of 135
    Fofer

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    So that I understand it, there are now two ways to get the TiVo iOS app and the TiVo Stream to be able to work from outside your home (for both downloading shows as well as streaming, albeit choppily for the latter.) Both of these ways require that you first establish a VPN connection.

    The first requires a jailbroken iOS device, with Guizovpn client installed, and a router that has Open VPN server, presumably via a firmware like Tomato.

    The second doesn't require the device be jailbroken, or Guizovpn... but does rely upon "Network Beacon" software, and that means an actual computer running it both at home, as well as on the road, on another computer, in the remote location you're at.

    Does that about sum the current state of affairs up?
     
  10. Nov 22, 2012 #70 of 135
    windracer

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    Ah, so that explains why I wasn't able to get it to work over WiFi in my initial testing. Cool, thanks for the update, and glad to know it worked for you!
     
  11. Nov 23, 2012 #71 of 135
    Snake Plissken

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    So before I buy a stream ...if I read this thread correctly there's no easy way to watch outside of my home network and I can only transfer items that my TIVO desktop used to allow me to transfer to my laptop. Is that an accurate statement?
     
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    windracer

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  13. Nov 24, 2012 #73 of 135
    magnus

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    I thought you could not use the tivo app with a jailbroken iOS device. Is that not true anymore?
     
  14. Nov 24, 2012 #74 of 135
    windracer

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    That was fixed a point version or two ago. The app will run on a jailbroken device, but you can't use any of the Stream functionality.
     
  15. Nov 24, 2012 #75 of 135
    David Platt

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    There's an easy workaround to let you use the Stream functions on a jailbroken device, though.
     
  16. Nov 27, 2012 #76 of 135
    ligand

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    Correct. The app is called xcon and is available in Cydia.
     
  17. Nov 29, 2012 #77 of 135
    drewfidelic

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    The Network Beacon or Bonjour Beacon method only requires one computer, and that computer needs to be same local network as the iOS device (NOT on the same network as the Tivo and Stream.) It does require (on most home networks) opening up port forwarding in your router to allow the iOS device to access the Tivos from outside of the home network.
     
  18. Dec 5, 2012 #78 of 135
    kylen

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    I thought Network Beacon/Bonjour Beacon was running on the network with the Tivo/Stream, to replicate the Bonjour for the VPN. If the iOS device is creating a VPN connection, how would it even see a Network Beacon/Bonjour Beacon on it's local network? Once it connects to the VPN, it's local network IS the Tivo/Stream network.

    Has anyone streamed successfully using Bonjour Beacon? If so, could you post a network diagram and config?
     
  19. Jan 2, 2013 #79 of 135
    RichB

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    I am also interested in figuring out the bonjour service.
    It appears to be running multiple devices in my network.

    What ports does TiVo and bonjour need exposed?

    Thanks,

    - Rich
     
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