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Tivo Stream Outside of Home Network?

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by rspike, Aug 21, 2013.

  1. JosephB

    JosephB Member

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    Absolutely true. There are positives and negatives to each method.
     
  2. Fofer

    Fofer XenForo Rocks! TCF Club

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    Yes, SlingBox's whole "virtual on-screen remote" on the front end, with IR blasters on the back end, has always felt like a kludge to me. TiVo is so close to doing it right. And yet...
     
  3. dlfl

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    Illustrating the complexities of discussing "government control". We have multiple levels of government (Federal, state, county, municipal, etc.). The UK case is about national government control while "most people have only one cable company" is usually a result of local (municipal) control.

    I know nothing about UK cable content other than I enjoy things like Masterpiece Theater on PBS. However I suspect USA cultural tastes are more diverse than those in the UK and I strongly suspect a major portion of our populace would not be satisfied with UK offerings, or the content that would be offered if controlled by the Federal government. As for commercials, there is no free lunch. You pay for the content one way or another. But even the government manages to perform functions well and efficiently -- on rare occasions. :)

    I don't believe local cable monopolies can be blamed only on (local) government control. There are obvious economic drivers related to infrastructure cost. I don't believe another cable company would want to serve our neighborhood even if there were no franchise or other factors preventing it. Our infrastructure is cable-down-the-street (paid for by TWC). The total bandwidth would not allow sharing by two cable services, and the demand would not support laying more cable or fiber, even if there were no franchise problems. My guess is this situation is typical in the USA.
     
  4. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Yeah they sort of tried that back in the late 90s when they deregulated the phone industry. Supposedly it was going to open up the market and allow you to get phone and DSL from a bunch of different companies, and for a short period you could, but now 15 years later we're back to a point where AT&T is the only option in this area.
     
  5. JosephB

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    Cable isn't an outright monopoly, it's just really,really expensive to overbuild and most cable companies don't enter existing markets. Not the same as the AT&T monopoly was back in the day.
     
  6. mdscott

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    And many if not most places require a franchise from at least one level of government -- further increasing difficulty of entering a market.

    michael
     
  7. JosephB

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    True, but all providers require a franchise so it's just a cost of doing business. It's not an exceptional burden placed only on newcomers, for example.
     
  8. jimmypowder

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    It's a monopoly .
     
  9. mattack

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    ????

    Maybe "...except for everyone else"???
     
  10. dlfl

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    :confused: High on brevity ... low on clarity.
     
  11. slowbiscuit

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    No, cable is not a monopoly. By law any provider can come in and get a franchise to build, but the high barriers to entry in a market prevent that from happening in most areas.

    So, due to those costs cable has an 'effective' monopoly (or more accurately oligopoly because of other players like U-Verse, FIOS etc.) on wired TV service but it's not because of government restrictions in most cases. And of course you can also get DirecTV and Dish.
     
  12. JosephB

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    Exactly. Strictly on TV service, there are actually only a few places--anywhere with line of sight or lack of installation locations for a dish--that cable is 100% truly the only choice. Many of those places now have U-Verse or FiOS.

    Cable is an effective monopoly (except in FiOS areas) when it comes to CableCard services, but at that point you're so far in the weeds and it's such a small market you're not going to get a lot of traction or sympathy from anyone other than the FCC.
     
  13. jimmypowder

    jimmypowder New Member

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    If the barriers are too high,which is absolutely true,in reality it has become a monopoly.

    i can't wait till all my media,video and audio comes through Comcast's dumb pipe ! Someone ,Google Apple ,etc will get this done .

    Of course Comcast and Co. will try to drive internet only prices through the roof to avoid becoming a dumb pipe.

    This is when the real competition will begin. The sooner the better.
     
  14. jimmypowder

    jimmypowder New Member

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    I cannot get Direct Tv , too many trees
     
  15. Joe Siegler

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    I have two Roamio (basic) boxes. If I get a stream, will it work for both boxes at home, or just one of them? Not having one, I have no idea how it works technically.

    Tkx.
     
  16. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Yes it'll work for any Premiere or Roamio on your network. The only limitation is that while the Stream can live anywhere on your network the connection between it and the TiVo(s) have to be wired, either Ethernet or MoCa.

    Also the standalone Stream does not yet support OOH streaming. That's not coming for a couple more weeks.
     
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    Joe Siegler

    Joe Siegler New Member

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    Yeah, my main TiVo will be able to do that, but the secondary one won't, as that's wireless on the other side of the house. That's about 95% kids shows, so we're unlikely to be streaming them outside the house anyway.

    Oh, I know. Just gathering info. Danke.
     
  18. Fofer

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    According to TCF's own Hoffer, who has a DirecTV Genie Go:

     

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