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Tivo Stream Outside of Home Network?

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by rspike, Aug 21, 2013.

  1. Oct 24, 2013 #61 of 178
    bayern_fan

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    Is there a way to get component out on a Roamio base with such a converter? (or possibly a breakout cable)

    If so, I might pick up a Slingbox 350 to replace my Stream
     
  2. Oct 24, 2013 #62 of 178
    jjd416

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    https://www.tivo.com/shop/stream

    Looks like streaming away from home for TiVo Stream, other than the one built into the Roamio Pro and Plus, is coming the end of December 2013.
     
  3. Oct 24, 2013 #63 of 178
    Fofer

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    WTF. Seriously?

    This isn't an issue for streaming products from Dish (Hopper,) DirecTV (Genie,) or Verizon FIOS is it?

    So, why TiVo?

    TiVo has perfected the art of getting me exciting for a feature or product... and then surprising me with new and novel ways to disappoint me. What a joke. What a waste. :thumbsdown:
     
  4. Oct 24, 2013 #64 of 178
    bayern_fan

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    TiVo better fix this one soon because streaming is NOT the same as copying.
     
  5. Oct 24, 2013 #65 of 178
    bradleys

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    It doesn't really impact me all that much because I am on FIOS, but I would be interested in hearing TiVo's resoning for this.

    Did they get a cease and desist order? Was the decision based on a cable labs legal opinion of some type?

    I know TiVo tends to be rather closed lipped about this kind of thing, but with as draconian some of the cable companies are being with the CCI byte - it would be good PR for them to present their best case.
     
  6. Oct 24, 2013 #66 of 178
    bayern_fan

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    Hoping Margret is watching this thread and might be able to shed some light on this. She's been excellent with communication regarding the Roamio so far! :up:
     
  7. Oct 24, 2013 #67 of 178
    bradleys

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    She has been very careful - and I do not blame her. She provides quick informational posts and doesn't engage in debate or conversation.

    It is very rare that she will answer the "why" question...

    Just glad I have FIOS!!!!
     
  8. Oct 24, 2013 #68 of 178
    moyekj

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    Something like this is what you would need (HDMI to component + R/L audio output):
    http://www.monoprice.com/products/product_print.asp?c_id=101&cp_id=10114&cs_id=1011410&p_id=8125
    Here's a different one available at Amazon (but based on reviews you probably should shop around):
    http://www.amazon.com/Kanex-Pro-HDR...ywords=hdmi+to+component+and+r/l+audio+output
     
  9. Oct 24, 2013 #69 of 178
    Dan203

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    Are just the premium channels blocked? Or all channels with CCI set?
     
  10. Oct 24, 2013 #70 of 178
    bayern_fan

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    Thanks moekj! Will look further into this. Much cheaper than buying a Mini+breakout component cable for the slingbox
     
  11. Oct 24, 2013 #71 of 178
    davezatz

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    Pretty sure FiOS just locks down HBO... Showtime and others are probably good go for me. Will have to borrow my wife's iPhone to test.
     
  12. Oct 24, 2013 #72 of 178
    davezatz

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    Interesting note from the support site, hm.

    http://support.tivo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2762/

     
  13. Oct 24, 2013 #73 of 178
    tatergator1

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    I just noticed that tidbit as well while looking over the help documentation. This explains why we see options for port forwarding on the sys-info page for the Stream, but no setup is currently required for that. The port-forwarding will be necessary in the future to allow direct connections to your home IP.
     
  14. Oct 24, 2013 #74 of 178
    Dan203

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    I noticed that on the full system info screen. There is a checkbox for port forwarding, but you can't actually check it.
     
  15. Oct 24, 2013 #75 of 178
    NeZorf

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    That proxy note in faq sounds promising. Does 1) streaming & 2) downloading outside the home work when the Roamio is behind a 'Double NAT' network? Would be grateful if someone is able to test that setup. TIA
     
  16. Oct 25, 2013 #76 of 178
    gamo62

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    I can't stream most of my channels. In or out of home network. Oh that's right. It's because they're H.264 and the Stream cannot handle that format.
     
  17. Oct 25, 2013 #77 of 178
    jrtroo

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    Most of your channels are in H.264? Where is that?
     
  18. Oct 25, 2013 #78 of 178
    Fofer

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    I don't understand why we can stream CCI byte shows inside the home... but can't stream those same shows, outside the home.

    Is this an issue with the streaming solutions from DTV, Dish, or FIOS? If not, why is it an issue with TiVo?
     
  19. Oct 25, 2013 #79 of 178
    SullyND

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    TiVo does not have the same relationship with the content providers as DTV, Dish, or FIOS.
     
  20. Oct 25, 2013 #80 of 178
    bradleys

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    Seems overly cautious to me...

    I wish I knew the details that lead to the decision to restrict it. Damn lawyers! :)
     

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