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Tivo Stream Outside of Home Network?

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by rspike, Aug 21, 2013.

  1. Oct 13, 2013 #41 of 178
    skaggs

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    I'm still looking for clarification on what (if any) restrictions will be placed on out-of-home streaming when it is finally enabled.

    If a show can be streamed from one TiVo to another in my home, why wouldn't it be able to be streamed to my iPad out-of-home?

    HBO shows have the most restrictive CCI byte, but I can stream these shows to another TiVo in my home. Will I be able to stream this same HBO show to my iPad when I am outside my home?

    If TiVo restricts streaming out-of-home similar to the prohibitions put in place for copying from one TiVo to another (CCI flag), the OOH streaming function would be better served with a Slingbox, IMO.
     
  2. Oct 13, 2013 #42 of 178
    Fofer

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    At least in the case of HBO, I'd say those shows are better served via the HBO GO app. It's the other premium channels I am worried about...
     
  3. Oct 13, 2013 #43 of 178
    skaggs

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    HBO GO app does not work outside of the USA. Slingbox does.
     
  4. Oct 14, 2013 #44 of 178
    Dan203

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    We don't know yet. The only indication we have that there will be restrictions at all is the early reviews of the Roamio that had mentions of the out of home streaming. Unless TiVo releases more info (unlikely) we'll have to wait until it's released and see how it goes.

    The big difference here between TiVo Stream and Slingbox is that TiVo has to play nice with CableLabs because they are doing a pure digital transfer. Slingbox is exploiting the "analog hole" so they aren't restricted.
     
  5. Oct 22, 2013 #45 of 178
    skaggs

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    CCI byte restrictions on OOH streaming? Yes or No?
     
  6. Oct 22, 2013 #46 of 178
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    We don't know yet. We haven't learned anything new in the 9 days since you asked last.
     
  7. Oct 22, 2013 #47 of 178
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  8. Oct 22, 2013 #48 of 178
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  9. Oct 22, 2013 #49 of 178
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    Looks like it's just Roamio Pro and Plus per Tivos Facebook page
     
  10. Oct 22, 2013 #50 of 178
    skaggs

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    The generic Roamio does not have streaming built in, but can receive channels via a HD antenna. It is compatible with a separate Stream unit.

    https://www.tivo.com/shop/roamio
     
  11. Oct 22, 2013 #51 of 178
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    Right. So can the premiere. The FB post makes no mention of the stream.
     
  12. Oct 22, 2013 #52 of 178
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    It's all going to be moot if there will be restrictions similar to those in place for the CCI byte / transfer.
     
  13. Oct 22, 2013 #53 of 178
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    Depends on your cable provider. Mine only protects Premium channels so it'll still work fine for me. But if you have one that protects everything like Time Warner then it would be pretty useless.

    Although if it is limited by CCI it's not really much better then downloading, so I wonder what the point would be?
     
  14. Oct 22, 2013 #54 of 178
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    Yeah the whole point of streaming was to appease the CCI byte.

    I want this to work with my Stream (and my Premiere) just as it works with the Stream+Roamio. And we've been told that it would.

    And I want it to let me stream any and all recorded content, outside the home. Otherwise it's completely useless to me.

    Let's see how TiVo manages to disappoint us, yet again. :rolleyes:
     
  15. Oct 23, 2013 #55 of 178
    skaggs

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    I have TWC and they restrict everything with the CCI byte except the locals.

    That's why I thought STREAMING outside the home was the answer, similar to how I can STREAM from the Premiere in my Family Room to the Premiere in my bedroom.

    I have a Slingbox so I can stream whatever channel I want. I was hoping to be able to get rid of the Slingbox and 2 Premieres and replace it with a Roamio+ and Mini.
     
  16. Oct 23, 2013 #56 of 178
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    We'll know in a few hours.
     
  17. Oct 24, 2013 #57 of 178
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    We had one reviewer that mentioned protected channels - that is where the concern comes from. I also agree that honoring the CCI byte for external streaming doesn't make any sense - but until 7am tomorrow we just won't know.

    Plenty of time to get pissed off when we have the whole story! :)
     
  18. Oct 24, 2013 #58 of 178
    skaggs

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    The updated TiVo app with streaming capabilities is available on the Apple App Store.
     
  19. Oct 24, 2013 #59 of 178
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    Very cool... 2 notes... as someone else noted only wi-fi is supported. Apparently LTE to come later. Premium channels will not stream out of house.
    Now, as the only iDevices my wife and I own are phones and pods, no pads, I'm waiting for a PC browser function.
     
  20. Oct 24, 2013 #60 of 178
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    The updated iOS app details do mention that it is coming to Stream "soon".
     

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