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TiVo Stream for $110

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by mrsean, Nov 30, 2012.

  1. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Mobile devices are typically limited in both disk space and bandwidth to download videos, either via USB or network. MPEG-4/H.264 was mainly chosen for space/bandwidth reasons then compatibility.

    Actually MPEG-2 requires less processing power to decode then H.264 so if a device had specific hardware to decode MPEG-2 it would likely have better battery life then decoding H.264. However most devices don't have hardware MPEG-2 decoders so they use CPU based decoders when they do support MPEG-2 and CPU decoders will eat up the battery a lot faster then a hardware decoder.

    Dan
     
  2. kcossabo

    kcossabo Member

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    Has anyone tried one? My iPad locks up and reboots my Premier, so I assume the same buggy code is on the streamer?
     
  3. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    I have one and use it every day. It has never locked up my iPad or caused my Premiere to reboot.

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  4. MichaelK

    MichaelK New Member

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    for a time MS windows didn't either- you had to buy a separate software package to get a license. It's something of a cost issue if i recall as the people that own the patents for MPEG2 ask for a few bucks a device royalty. MS at the time argued that it was silly to pay for MPEG2 on every windows machine when only some users would ever use it. Apple would probably say the same thing while doing their best to bash MPEG2 and say there are "better" options out there.

    Along the same lines I don't believe that android OS devices natively play mpeg2 either- same cost issue- but more complex- a free open source OS can't include the required licenses since no one is paying for the OS- so it can't even be included. The device manufacturer might add it but the OS doesn't include it.

    from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-2

     
  5. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    The primary reasons most portable electronics don't include MPEG2 support:

    * MPEG2 is just not used much outside of broadcast TV.
    * MPEG2 streams are more than twice the size of "modern" codecs, requiring twice the storage space and twice the bandwidth.
    * Licensing costs for something with low demand.
    * No hardware support (which is needed in the GPU/chipset to play video without taxing the CPU and battery)
     
  6. pesto126

    pesto126 New Member

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    Curious about this.. would you be able to:
    a) use the stream to send a program to your ipad and then....
    b) use the ipad and Apple TV to stream that show to a TV?

    If so, then all you would need would be a stream and an Apple TV to create a remote viewing experience on the big screen... will that work?

    Thx!
     
  7. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    There is a way to use AirPlay if you have a jail broken iPad. However without the jail break AirPlay is disable as is HMDI/component output.

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