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TiVo Stream FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Stream' started by Dan203, Aug 28, 2013.

  1. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    There have been quite a few questions about this recently so here is a quick FAQ for anyone who's confused about how the Stream functionality works...

    Q. Which TiVos have a built in TiVo Stream?
    A. The Roamio Plus and Pro have built in TiVo Streams, the Roamio Basic and all Premiere units require the standalone TiVo Stream box. The Bolt has streaming capabilities but only for shows on it's own drive.

    Q. Can the built in Stream in the Roamio Plus/Pro stream from other TiVos on your network?
    A. Yes. The built in TiVo Stream works exactly like the standalone TiVo Stream. It can stream from any other Roamio or Premiere on your network.

    Q. Can the built in Stream in the Bolt stream from other TiVos on your network?
    A. No. The Bolt uses the transcoding capabilities of it's Boradcom chipset which only allows it to stream shows stored on it's own drive.

    Q. What's the difference between the standalone TiVo Stream and the one built into the Roamio Plus/Pro?
    A. Nothing. The hardware is identical. The Roamio Plus/Pro simply include it on the same motherboard as the TiVo hardware. The internal Stream even has it's own MAC address and uses it's own IP address on your network.

    Q. What's the difference between the Bolt and the standalone TiVo Stream/the one built into the Roamio Plus/Pro?
    A. The Bolt uses the transcoding capabilities of it's Broadcom chipset rather then a separate dedicated trasncoding chip. It can only transcode 2 streams at a time rather then 4.

    Q. How many streams can you have going simultaneously?
    A. The standalone TiVo Stream and the one built into the Roamio Plus/Pro can transcode and stream up to 4 programs simultaneously. The number of streams you can get from a single TiVo depends on the type. Romaio units seem to have no limit. Premiere units support a maximum of 3 streams. The Bolt can only stream 2 programs at a time.

    Q. Can I have multiple TiVo Streams on the same network?
    A. Yes. When you go into the setup section of the app it detects that you have multiple TiVo Stream devices and asks you to select which one to use. However each TiVo Stream supports up to 4 simultaneous streams so for most users having multiple TiVo Streams is unnecessary.

    Q. Which devices can be used to stream?
    A. iOS and Android devices are both supported. There is also a special app specifically for the Amazon Fire TV and Fire TV Stick.

    Q. Can I stream outside my home network?
    A. Yes. Unprotected shows can be streamed outside your home network as long as you are connected to a wifi network. Support for 3G/LTE streaming is supported on Android but not iOS. The Bolt only allows streaming of one program outside your home, wheras the Roamio Plus/Pro or Standalone stream can do four.

    Q. Can I stream live TV?
    A. Kind of. When you pick something from the live TV guide to watch via the Stream it actually starts a recording of that program and then starts streaming the recording to your device. You can not take over a live tuner like you can with the Mini.

    Q. Can I stream protected content?
    A. Anything can be streamed inside your home. Only unprotected content can be streamed outside the home. The iOS app has a special feature that allows you to download protected shows for out of home viewing.

    Q. Can I stream shows from MPEG-4/H.264 channels?
    A. Yes. Although there have been reports of issues with some Comcast H.264 channels.

    Q. Can I download shows so I can watch them later without a network connection?
    A. Yes. Unprotected shows can be downloaded to iOS or Android devices for watching offline. Protected shows must be deleted from the source TiVo after beging transferred to the mobile app.

    Q. Do I have to leave the app running for it to download shows?
    A. On iOS yes. A limitation of iOS requires that the device be left on with the TiVo app running in the foreground for it to download. If you shut off the device, close the TiVo app or switch to another app the download will pause until you bring the TiVo app back to the foreground. Android has the ability to download programs in the background.

    Q. Can I use AirPlay or HDMI cable to play streamed recordings on a TV?
    A. Yes. A recent update added this ability.

    Did I miss anything?
     
    Last edited: Sep 15, 2016
  2. NYHeel

    NYHeel Active Member

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    Android support has not been promised for the fall. More like late 2013 or early 2014. That rumor started by people misunderstanding what TiVo CEO Tom Rodgers said on the CNBC interview. He said the fall in regards to the stream but I believe he was referring to out of home streaming and not android support.
     
  3. wmcbrine

    wmcbrine Ziphead

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    Shouldn't this be in the Stream forum?
     
  4. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Yeah I guess it hasn't been "promised" but if you jump to 3:45 in this interview...

    http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/2619...mio-is-apple-tv-google-tv-netflix-all-in-one/

    Rom Rogers says "Android will be available shortly, for Roaming", and previous insider leaks have said November which is still the Fall. However I'll change the wording a bit to prevent confusion.
     
  5. CoxInPHX

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    Q) Can you use the Stream with CCI Byte: 0x02, Copy Once content?

    Q) Can you use the Stream with H.264/MPEG-4 content.
     
  6. worachj

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    Can the Roamio BASIC stream to other Roamio/Premiere’s the same way existing Premiere’s can? I know it needs an external stream box to stream to mobile iOS devise but what about Roamio to Premiere? And can it handle copy once recordings.
     
  7. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    That's a different kind of streaming. That works with ALL Premiere units and Roamio units and can be used with all channels regardless of copy protection.
     
  8. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    * Missing information about copying (not streaming) content and the associated restrictions.
    * Also I seem to recall some annoyances about having to keep iOS App open while copy is happening else the download stops, but that may just be an general issue with iOS and multitasking.
     
  9. gamo62

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    Stream will NOT work on H.264 content. It will work on MPEG2, but not MPEG4. Nothing from TiVo on an ETA on when or if it will happen. Be advised, and check it out before you order.
     
  10. gamo62

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    NO. H.264 will not stream or copy over.
     
  11. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    There is already an item listing the problem with H.264/MPEG-4 content. I updated the one about protected content to clarify the difference between inside the home and outside the home streaming.
     
  12. Nailz

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    Is there some indicator that a show is protected verses non-protected other than just not streaming outside the home?

    Bummer about the airplay/HDMI. I was think that I could download some TV shows for the wife to watch on the in-vehicle entertainment system during trips.

    Curtis
     
  13. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    If the show is protected then the Download button will be grayed out even when you're in the home.
     
  14. Nailz

    Nailz New Member

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    Thanks Dan! Glad Tivo has something that indicates this.

    Curtis
     
  15. bparker

    bparker New Member

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    Can I record in different formats or transcode the show being recorded to ensure I can stream anywhere in my home? I've been considering a mini, but if I can't stream everything, I'll be mad.
     
  16. jrtroo

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    You can stream everything within the home except Amazon downloads, no need to think through formats or transcoding. There is a work around somewhere on the forum for that as well. Shhh....
     
  17. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    Just for completeness though, H.264 recordings don't show up as prohibited but they don't work with the Stream (currently), so it's not quite "everything". There are a few cable companies using H.264 for some channels and of course with pyTivo you can also get H.264 recordings on your TiVo as well.
     
  18. mike3775

    mike3775 New Member

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    Did TiVo include dial up only support? Sure seems like it as every time I am trying to stream I buffer like crazy. Yet it NEVER does it for Netflix or Amazon, just recorded shows. This stream is a waste of time with the buffering.

    And no, it is NOT my ISP or anything on my end, as EVERY OTHER stream stuff works fine. I can stream to my iPad fine with netflix and amazon, yet use TiVo, I get buffering. He'll I might as well try to install real player, that didn't buffer as much as the TiVo.

    Good job TiVo, you made me despise the roaming. I got it for streaming and feel I wasted my money
     
  19. Bytez

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  20. ej42137

    ej42137 Active Member

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    But there is only one transcoder in the built-in Stream.
     

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