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TiVo Software Update 14.9.2.2 Fast Forward Bug

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by MikeOrlando, Dec 14, 2011.

  1. Dec 28, 2011 #41 of 107
    morac

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    I can't say for certain, but possibly they asked about this in one of their monthly surveys. That or maybe they used a focus group or something.

    Personally I used the 30 second scan (and the Slide remote) so it doesn't affect me one way or another, but when I used to use the TiVo remote with my S3 (I switched to the Harmony), it frequently processed single button presses as double button presses. This made it tricky to actually get to ffx3 mode since it tended to cycle back to play. Back then I always resumed playing with the play button.
     
  2. Dec 29, 2011 #42 of 107
    Charles R

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    Not in any of the monthly surveys I participated in.

    I use the 30-second skip myself. But not if I'm searching to find a place in a video. Such as a song in a 90 minute special. Then I use FF. I guess I simply find the old method a nice advanced feature and it's a shame TiVo is getting dumbed down. Instead of going in the opposite direction which makes silly little things like this stick out.
     
  3. Dec 29, 2011 #43 of 107
    aaronwt

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    I know if I filled out one of the surveys I would have voted for the new way. I'm using the FF option more now than I have in many, many years. For me it's a huge improvement from how it used to be.
     
  4. Dec 30, 2011 #44 of 107
    bldxyz

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    I hate to interject a sideways comment, but could someone with TiVo Premiere tell me how the 30 second skip works these days? As in, does it immediately skip 30 seconds?

    Context: I had a DirecTV TiVo box back in 2002, and a HD version of it in 2006, and both of those machines required a secret-code way to change the behavior of the 30 second button from scanning the 30 seconds to immediately skipping it. Rumor is that the new DirecTV TiVo box (which I have on order) no longer has that secret feature (or, at least, the old way of accessing it doesn't work), and I'm considering defecting from DirecTV if their new TiVo box doesn't have that feature, especially if the current TiVo Premiere boxes do!)
     
  5. Dec 31, 2011 #45 of 107
    Charles R

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    It can work two ways... for how long who knows. :)

    • Quick scan - you see images flashing by (you can stack presses)
    • Jumps - more or less instantly
     
  6. Jan 1, 2012 #46 of 107
    aaronwt

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    It's a 30 second scan not skip.
    Prior to the S4 I used the 30 second skip and did not think I would like the 30 second scan function. But after using it a while, I can't stand using the 30 second skip anymore.
     
  7. Jan 1, 2012 #47 of 107
    lpwcomp

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    I'm of the exact opposite opinion. I prefer the 30-sec skip and enabled it on my Premier as soon as I found out that it was still available via S-P-S-3-0-S.
     
  8. Jan 1, 2012 #48 of 107
    bldxyz

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    I think that's the confirmation I'm looking for. I appreciate that people have different opinions and preferences -- that's America for you!

    If I understand correctly, you get the 30 second skip by the "secret code"...? (S stands for Slow, P for Play, and you get three bings after you finish, right?)
     
  9. Jan 2, 2012 #49 of 107
    mcphill

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    S is Select
     
  10. Jan 2, 2012 #50 of 107
    lpwcomp

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    And remember, you must do this while watching a previously recorded show. Do it while watching live TV and you just end up changing to channel 30. For me, that is CSPAN.:eek:

    To summarize, start watching something in your "My Shows", push SELECT PLAY SELECT 3 0 SELECT. i have no idea if you get three bings. I turn off sound effects on a TiVo as soon as I am able to.:)
     
  11. Jan 2, 2012 #51 of 107
    bldxyz

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    Great. Thanks. It has been a while... I think the S = Slow in my memory might have been for the S0RT code... But that's something different altogether!
     
  12. Jan 2, 2012 #52 of 107
    Beryl

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    I'm with you. The scan on the Premiere got on my nerves so much that I searched this forum yesterday for the sequence. I don't want to see ANY of the commercials.
     
  13. Jan 4, 2012 #53 of 107
    bldxyz

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    So, I talked to a chat agent on Tivo.com and this fellow strenuously denies that 30 second skip exists on TiVo Premiere.

    My guess is that TiVo's official position is that this feature has been done away with, and my suspicion is that it is an accommodation to television advertisers.

    So it would be really great if other people besides lpwcomp could confirm that they 1) have a Premiere, and 2) can successfully switch from 30 second scan to 30 second skip using SPS30S.


    Here is the interesting part of the chat transcript:

    Niles: I apologize, but there are no current plans to bring that to a Premiere box.
    bldxyz: I am confused by your reply, since people on tivocommunity.com claim that this feature does, in fact, exist on the TiVo Premiere box.
    Niles: It does not. Our regular fast forward skips in 30 second increments, so that may be what they were thinking of. However, with those Direct TV boxes I am not sure if it is available.
    bldxyz: Are you aware of the Select Play Select 3 0 Select code sequence?
    bldxyz: Look at what people are saying: http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=8881761&highlight=30+second+skip#post8881761
    Niles: Yes I am aware of it and for forums they are not the most reliable source of information.
    bldxyz: But there are several people saying that if you enter that sequence on a TiVo Premiere, you get the result that I'm talking about.
    bldxyz: You are saying they are all mistaken, if I am to interpret you correctly
    Niles: Correct. We do not have the 30 second skip on the Premiere remote like the older ones.
    bldxyz: "I prefer the 30-sec skip and enabled it on my Premier as soon as I found out that it was still available via S-P-S-3-0-S." -- lpwcomp
    bldxyz: so you are saying he is simply wrong.
    Niles: Yes.
    bldxyz: interesting
    bldxyz: I'm not sure what to make of that.
    Niles: If you find steps to set it up online, great I would recommend following them. However, there are no options to do so through TiVo and we do not support it at the moment. Is there anything else I can help you with today?
     
  14. Jan 4, 2012 #54 of 107
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  15. Jan 4, 2012 #55 of 107
    aaronwt

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    The code works on the Premiere.

    make sure you implement it while you are watching a previously recorded show.
     
  16. Jan 4, 2012 #56 of 107
    lessd

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    Code works on both the TP and the TPXL, with v14.9.2.2

    Alert I just checked and removed the 30s jump by using the code SPS30S and the skip button now went to the end of the program, not the 30S slide forward as it did when I first got the TP. I re-entered the code and was back to the 30S jump, So did V14.9.2.2 removed the 30S slide option or once you enter the code you can never get back to the 30S slide again.

    I will try a re-boot with the 30S skip off and see what happens.
     
  17. Jan 4, 2012 #57 of 107
    moyekj

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    That's a false alarm. There's a menu entry to re-enable 30 sec scan again after disabling 30 sec skip if you want it back.
    Settings-Remote,CableCard, & Devices-Remote Control Setup ...
     
  18. Jan 4, 2012 #58 of 107
    lessd

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    OH! more complicated than it should be, but I concede, thanks for your input.
     
  19. Jan 4, 2012 #59 of 107
    lpwcomp

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    I'm pretty sure that the 30-second skip was never an officially supported feature.
     
  20. Jan 4, 2012 #60 of 107
    mattack

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    Except in actual real world time taken..

    (BTW, if you don't like this, CALL TIVO and tell them. I don't have a Premiere so am not running into the issue.. Especially when you can point them to the web documentation saying this is broken, that's useful.)
     

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