Separate names with a comma.
Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by chef616, Nov 4, 2013.
Ordered one. Free shipping.
I did this chat just now:
William: Hi, my name is William. Are you an existing customer?
TiVo Customer: Yes, I just wanted to ask about the new Slide Pro remote. Is it a Learning remote? Also, are the two different remotes the same, except for the dongle? Roamio or Premiere/Mini?
TiVo Customer: Why is shipping free on the Premiere/Mini model, that comes with a dongle and the Roamio version, without the dongle, costs $9 to ship???
William: I have to be honest all the information I have for this device is on this page.
William: Does not look like a learning remote.
TiVo Customer: Are the two versions exactly the same, other than the dongle. Also, the dongle is just so the Mini/Premiere can use RF, correct?
William: I believe the only difference is the dongle.
TiVo Customer: It says this;
TiVo Customer: One remote does it all: control power, input, volume and mute of your TV and/or audio receiver.
William: Yes the dongle is to add the RF receiving function to a device that does not have that feature.
TiVo Customer: but no learning?
William: That means it has the same programming feature the other remotes have. You know enter a four digit code depending on the model of Tv, ext.
TiVo Customer: But not learning, like the GLO remote?
TiVo Customer: The GLO specs say this; Learning capable - Programmable to control power, input, volume, and mute on your TV and A/V receiver using built-in database of commands, or learn these commands directly from your TV's and receiver's remote controls.
William: That is correct that feature is not with the new slide.
Yeah, but what if it REQUIRES using the dongle on the Roamio and has a shorter range and doesn't do the remote finder? Then it won't be quite the attraction. That is why inquiring minds want to know the difference between the two....
Thanks. But he never answered why shipping was free only on the supposedly identical remote that includes MORE stuff (the dongle). Of course, he didn't really answer anything at all, anyway, since all he did was read the web page, which we all have already done!!
On the chat that I just did, after seeing his reply saying "To be honest, all the info that I have is right here", pointing to the Tivo site, I didn't think that he "Honestly" knew.
I think that somebody messed up on the site. Not "Walmart" messed up, but I think that both were supposed to have a shipping charge and it will be fixed in the morning.
I just went ahead and ordered three more of the new Slide remotes. I figure I have a $241 check coming shortly from the Dehumidifier recall, so that will more than cover the four SLides. I just hope that the ones with the dongle will work properly when used with the Roamio without the need for the dongle. Otherwise I will need to return/exchange two of them.
On the invoice I got via email it says...
TiVo Slide Pro Remote w/Adapter
Does not say anything about it being Premiere/Mini specific on the invoice. And if it doesn't work I'll exchange it.
No more free shipping.
Remember when people were using the "Bundle" trick?
You could add the Mini and Premiere box, at a special rate, then remove the Premiere. That would let you check out at $76 shipped, for the Mini, I think.
I did not use it, but some did. Tivo didn't "fix" it for weeks/months maybe.
You should order with the dongle in case you eventually want to use the Slide with something other than the Roamio,
The price is much better than I expected!!
This is how the two types appear on my order, Roamio first, then Premiere/Mini:
C00260 TiVo Slide Pro Remote
C00261 TiVo Slide Pro Remote w/Adapter
Support articles are up on TiVo.com
http://support.tivo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2774/kw/TiVo Slide Pro
states this "IS" a learning remote. Phew!
Here are the "learning" instructions: http://support.tivo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/278
Looks to be the same page for this new remote as the old slide remote. Anyone know if you can do Macros on these?
Without the ability to turn on both my receiver and my TV, (and possible macro over to the right inputs) with one button press, this won't have a high wife acceptability factor. I'd love if I could replace my universal with this for most tv watching (only having to switch fro blu ray or other devices).
Based on what the GLO said, doesn't the term "learning remote" just mean that it knows the same exact database of makes/models as the normal Roamio remote? The normal Roamio remote can already control your TV and AV power, volume, input, mute.
I don't see what the big deal is here regarding "learning" since I don't think it is actually teaching the remote a command it doesn't know, like you can do with say a Harmony Remote.
Okay, I guess I'll take that back based on what Mike just posted, it can learn codes not in it's list:
Looks like no to the macros, but the Tivo support page linked indicates up to 3 devices can be linked to the power button. You should be able to set it up for both TV and your receiver.
The key part I like is "learn these commands directly from your TV's and receiver's remote controls"
I really like the RF on the Roamio. Its so much faster than my Harmony one. It is also much more reliable than the current IR extenders I use.
Will it allow using more than one remote with a single Tivo?
As in, his & hers? So I don't have to go looking for where my wife left it? And, no, a 'finding' feature isn't a substitute. I just want to have two remote to control a single Tivo in the room.
The only reason I've used the learning has been it's too damned much work to slog through all the variations of remotes a device 'might' use. It's faster to just teach it the VOL+-, mute and power codes than retrying what might be a dozen different remote settings.
Especially if you have a TV made by someone other than the label on the front. Damned Akai piece of crud we had... none of the half-dozen codes would work. I think it was only some Magnavox code that worked. Which says more about the terrible TV than anything else.
Now I just wish they'd put a pen-writable bit of label inside the battery compartment so I can make note of whatever code DOES work. Or at least be able to track it on the Tivo itself.
Also sometimes AV receivers will have multiple on/off/standby and if the codes don't map directly it's nice to be able to map a custom signal the way you need it to work.
If someone who receives one of theirs with the USB dongle still has a Series 3 somewhere in the house, could they try connecting it to that and seeing if it works?
I'm wondering if it'd work just fine with a Series 3 HD TiVo but they're not advertising that because they want to get people to buy newer TiVos (and because there's no easy access to the remote-finder feature).