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TiVo Priority Update Page is LIVE for 20.4.2 (Summer Update)

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by tatergator1, Jun 27, 2014.

  1. Jul 4, 2014 #41 of 146
    tough joe

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    any news on the details of the update? im already aware of the "my Shows" categories... anything else?
     
  2. Jul 4, 2014 #42 of 146
    NYHeel

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    Why? The slingbox is much more limited than the Tivo Stream functionality. You can't download shows to the slingbox app and need to have either wifi or reliable high speed cellular data to stream via the slingbox. I use downloaded shows almost all the time and I would assume that most people that use the stream while commuting use the download option as well. Cellular data just isn't reliable enough (nor cheap if you don't have unlimited) to stream video while on the move.
     
  3. Jul 4, 2014 #43 of 146
    Leon WIlkinson

    Leon WIlkinson TiVo Gone Wild

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    If you download a show which is 4 GB on the TiVo would that not be 4 GB of Data needed, or is it compressed?
     
  4. Jul 4, 2014 #44 of 146
    nycityuser

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    The TiVo app allows you to choose which quality level you want - Basic, Medium or High. The size of the file adjusts accordingly. I generally find that a one hour program in HD takes 1 GB on my iPad in high quality. Less for the other quality levels.
     
  5. Jul 4, 2014 #45 of 146
    nycityuser

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    I second that. One reason I wanted the download capability is to watch video on airplanes without any wifi or cellular connections. The iPad is great for that.

    I had resisted buying any Apple "i" products - I've had Android phones for years and bought a Kindle Fire last year. But when I upgraded my TiVo to the Roamio Pro in January 2014 (for not a small amount of money) I realized I was forgoing one of the great features of TiVo. So I broke down and bought an iPad Mini when Verizon was offering a $200 off sale. I'm glad I did.
     
  6. Jul 4, 2014 #46 of 146
    aaronwt

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    I still can't get past the funky aspect ratio the ipad screens use.
     
  7. Jul 4, 2014 #47 of 146
    moyekj

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    Yes I never understood that either. As a result playing 16:9 content on iPad means you lose vertical space. I'm another that bought an iPad almost exclusively to use the TiVo app for TiVo recording watching and it's working well for me for that. Haven't found much other use for iPad as I guess I'm old school and prefer laptops with real keyboards, decent size screens and useful applications other than silly games.
     
  8. Jul 4, 2014 #48 of 146
    shrike4242

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    With Android L / 5.0 on the horizon, Tivo just needs to get Android streaming out there for 4.x devices just to prove that it won't ever be vaporware. Enough changes with Android L that id they don't get something out there shortly, it'll never happen because they'll be back at the drawing board again.

    There's enough devices out there with Jellybean (4.1 - 4.3) and Kitkat (4.4) that ignoring anything 2.x or 3.x isn't a huge issue. Ice Cream Sandwich (4.0) might be an issue, though again, devices that came with 4.0 are 3 years ago or more.

    I doubt Android Streaming is coming with the 20.4.2 update, though if they do a larger point release like a 20.5, then I'd expect it with what is usually upgraded in a major point release.
     
  9. Jul 5, 2014 #49 of 146
    Diana Collins

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    It is highly unlikely that there need be any changes to the DVR software to support Android streaming. It would just work off the same mechanism that supports iOS streams. All they need to is finish and release the Android app. I'm sure the delay is the same as what delayed the DirecTV Android version - there is so much variation in Android hardware, as well as custom extensions to the UI, that developing an app that behaves properly on most (forget all) devices is challenging.
     
  10. Jul 5, 2014 #50 of 146
    thenightfly42

    thenightfly42 SeƱor Senior, Jr.

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    The subdivisions for My Shows looks like a nice addition. Anyone know where externally-loaded video (e.g., from pyTivo) will be listed?
     
  11. Jul 6, 2014 #51 of 146
    gonzotek

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    Devices would be my guess.
     
  12. Jul 6, 2014 #52 of 146
    mrsean

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    Well at least one person is interested in this. I think it's unnecessary as I have never been unable to locate quickly any recorded shows on my full DVR. I wish TiVo would stop giving us fluff like this that nobody asked for and instead put their efforts into the things we have been requesting for years.
     
  13. Jul 6, 2014 #53 of 146
    cherry ghost

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    Devices should be where we'll be able to find pyTiVo shares, but what about pulls and pushes? I would think that pulls with correct metadata will be seen in the relevant subdivision. Pushes might only be in "All."
     
  14. Jul 6, 2014 #54 of 146
    aaronwt

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    I still think profiles would have been many times more useful.
     
  15. Jul 6, 2014 #55 of 146
    tarheelblue32

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    +1
     
  16. Jul 6, 2014 #56 of 146
    mrsean

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    +2
     
  17. Jul 6, 2014 #57 of 146
    gonzotek

    gonzotek tivo_xml developer

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    Ah I get it, and yeah, that sounds right.
     
  18. Jul 7, 2014 #58 of 146
    tough joe

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    Yes - the cable card fees are crazy high... they were supposed to be provided to customers for a small fee until the cable co's decided they can get away with charging $5 per card...

    it really sucks if/when you are paying monthly for tivo, and then to add an additional $5 to each TiVo unit for the cable card... it sucks plain and simple.
     
  19. Jul 7, 2014 #59 of 146
    chiguy50

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    Actually, the original FCC guidelines published in 2011 suggested $2 to $4 per card as a "typical" charge, so $5 per unit today is hardly out of line by those standards.

    However, the clever folks at Comcast, just to name one MSO, have figured out that they can circumvent those guidelines and bill you for $10 p.m. by pretending that the fee is not for the CableCARD itself but rather for the "additional digital outlet" (ADO) which serves the device containing the card. Their billing system has accomplished this sleight of hand by removing the CableCARD line-item charge and substituting a "Digital Service" or ADO line item. At roughly the same time they encrypted all of the clear QAM channels so that there is no way of viewing any of the TV signals they deliver except by means of one of the decrypting devices they provide, whether DVR, STB, DTA, CableCARD or other.

    I hope that knowing you could be paying twice as much per card than your current $5 fee gives you some measure of solice.:rolleyes:

    OTOH, you should be getting a "customer-owned equipment" (COE) credit of around $2.50 for each of your TiVo's using the MSO's CableCARD, which should reduce your actual $5 charge considerably.
     
  20. Jul 7, 2014 #60 of 146
    lessd

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    For every $ of cable cost most states impose special taxes and other fees such that you have to increase whatever your paying about 10% or so.

    Comcast charges $7.45/card inc the AO charge, $9.95 per AO - $2.50 for using your own equipment. First card is free if not using any of Comcast converter boxes.
     

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