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TiVo prepping nex generation DVRs

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by bradleys, Jun 17, 2013.

  1. Jun 19, 2013 #61 of 1049
    bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    What took you so long! I thought maybe you were on vacation or something... :rolleyes:

    I would love to see something out for the holiday season - but I am not sure TiVo has all the approvals from the FCC so I think it is premature to "promise" any dates until that happens.

    But yes, it would not suprise me to see a fall release slip to winter or spring depending on a lot of factors. I think it is also important to remember, TiVo has not publicly announced either a product or a date - This is all based on information gathered by Dave Zatz.
     
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    Richard Cranium

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    csell

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    Not that anyone will truly know the answer, but do you think they will continue with the Digital Programming Only requirement that they started with the TiVo Premiere 4?
     
  4. Jun 19, 2013 #64 of 1049
    Dan203

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    Yes. They specifically petitioned the FCC to allow them to bypass the analog recording requirement. In fact for this generation they specifically asked to bypass the analog requirement of OTA as well. So, provided they get approval, the next gen box will be digital only for both cable and OTA.
     
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    Bigg

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    I just want DTA to bring my XL4 back up to 4 tuners. We've already hit conflicts with only 3 tuners online for the DVR.
     
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    sbiller

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    innocentfreak

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    Repeating myself ;)

    I really hope TiVo moves quick on this once the FCC waiver goes through.

    TiVo will have some serious competition for consumer dollars if they release in October.

    If I could only buy one, I would keep my Elite and buy the console(s) first. TiVo will always be available so I can pick that up next year. If anything like with the Elite, waiting may get you a better deal if the price drops. I don't think it will this time around though since it is a new platform, but there is always the chance since sales never happen at launch.

    I just hope they aren't expecting big numbers in the first quarter of sales. It could well be up to a year before those people buy since they will have just spent $460+ on hardware and games. Most aren't going to turn around and spend up to $1000 on TiVo.

    Right Now the PS4 is rumored Oct 29-November 14th and the Xbox One is rumored the 21st of November.
     
  8. Jun 21, 2013 #68 of 1049
    davezatz

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    The goal would always to launch ahead of the holiday season and inline with Best Buy's shelf reset. They couldn't pull it off with the original Premiere... but it looks like they're further ahead and with hopefully with fewer issues this generation.
     
  9. Jun 21, 2013 #69 of 1049
    Dan203

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    Hopefully 3 1/2 years of experience programming for Adobe Air, coupled with better hardware, will give them a better chance at making this launch smooth. But I'm pretty sure the initial target for the Mini was suppose to be last Fall and it somehow slipped to March so who knows.
     
  10. Jun 21, 2013 #70 of 1049
    sbiller

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    I believe TiVo is pushing for the FCC waiver request to be granted by July 15th so maybe we will see a release as early as August/September. That could, however, be related to purchase commitments for new hardware from their supplier.

    I expect the Mini was a more significant software change compared to adding a couple of tuners, embedding Stream functionality, integrating WiFi, and dealing with an RF remote.

    I expect the biggest challenge would be dynamic tuner allocation. I know at least one MSO that's currently deploying the Mini to all markets is pushing very hard for DTA this year.
     
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    morac

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    Bigg

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    Hopefully that gets them moving on it. We're really going to need it come the fall, and for Sochi.

    2TB isn't much on FIOS.
     
  14. Jun 22, 2013 #74 of 1049
    mr.unnatural

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    Storage capacity is a direct relation to how you use your DVR. If you like to record a lot of shows and archive them you'll need a lot of storage. If you record shows, watch them within a reasonable time frame, and then delete them, you really don't need a lot of storage. I routinely record about 40-50 hours of shows per week during the regular season and generally watch what I record within 2-5 days after they're recorded. I only have a 1.5TB drive in my HTPC for recording and it rarely gets more than half full. I also use that drive for additional file storage so the actual space for recording is more in the neighborhood of about 1.2 TB.

    Obviously, everyone's recording and viewing habits differ. Some people record fewer shows but like to hang onto them forever. Personally, I've always been a strong believer that a DVR is for recording, not long term storage. If you want to save shows indefinitely, offload them to a server or other storage facility where they're less likely to be lost in the event of a drive failure. DVR drives are running 24/7 and will have a much shorter lifespan than the average desktop drive.

    BTW, I'm on FIOS.
     
  15. Jun 22, 2013 #75 of 1049
    sneagle

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    I got the survey. The biggest fault of the survey is not allowing me to say I have BOTH Tivo AND the Verizon DVR.
     
  16. Jun 22, 2013 #76 of 1049
    zalusky

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    I have to agree with this. I think personal libraries are a fading concept.
    I used to buy a lot of books. I don't any more and haven't really cracked any of them in years. The computer books especially are out of date.

    I used to buy tons of DVDs. They all sit in a drawer now.

    With Cable, OnDemand, and Netflix there is so much new stuff that I rarely have time to watch something old - let alone want to keep a seasons worth of something beyond the first viewing.

    If I really wanted to watch something that could have been in my library. I just go get it from Netflix or the equivalent.

    I really just think of my DVR has a short term delivery vehicle.
     
  17. Jun 22, 2013 #77 of 1049
    Bierboy

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    I've had the four-tuner since December, and I can count on one hand the number of times all four have been recording simultaneously...

    ...now, granted, we are a two-person family and my wife has her own TiVo, so our needs aren't as demanding with those who still have young 'uns at home...
     
  18. Jun 22, 2013 #78 of 1049
    Richard Cranium

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    Why? What does one have to do with the other?
     
  19. Jun 22, 2013 #79 of 1049
    mr.unnatural

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    I'm the only person in my household that records shows and I routinely have six or more tuners going at the same time. It all depends on your viewing and recording habits. Some people are hardcore couch potatoes like me while others are only casual viewers. A lot of people could get away with a single tuner DVR while others can never have enough tuners.
     
  20. Jun 22, 2013 #80 of 1049
    Dan203

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    Cable channels tend to repeat everything, and there are only 5 or 6 broadcast channels in most areas, so the average cable user doesn't actually need more then 6 tuners.
     

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