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TiVo prepping nex generation DVRs

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by bradleys, Jun 17, 2013.

  1. Aug 10, 2013 #681 of 1049

    sbiller Active Member

    May 10, 2002
    Tampa, FL
    Good question. They could support a consumers own Cloud storage but I'm guessing this might be hosted in TiVo's data center(s). Perhaps they'll provide a certain amount of storage and offer additional storage for a fee.
  2. Aug 10, 2013 #682 of 1049

    rifleman69 Member

    Jan 6, 2005
    Because it's more environmental. You're essentially recycling hard drive memory to be available for usage by something else, hence recycle bin. Apple still calls it trash fwiw.
  3. Aug 10, 2013 #683 of 1049

    nooneuknow TiVo User Since 2007

    Feb 5, 2011
    Cox Cable...
    I didn't mean to offend you, if that's how you felt about what I said. I appreciate your effort to educate me. You were trying to tell me things I already know. But, how could you know I wasn't already aware of what you were telling me, in a good-faith effort? You couldn't have, since you don't know all the details of how I use my TiVos, and why I do things the way I do (and the extent of what I do or don't already know).

    So, I apologize, if I came across as harsh. Please, don't hesitate to try and help, if you feel you can. I do welcome it.

    The key words in this are "good faith effort", which I wish I would see more of here. Sometimes, good faith efforts are hard to spot in the sea of cheap-shots and criticisms here, or I've had my fill of the latter, and the wrong person gets barked at.

    Since I'm already at 2TB on all my TiVos, which came with 320GB/160GB dives, even if an expander would work, I really don't want to run into the problems many encounter when they add the additional point-of-failure, which an expander is. I'm sure you are aware of what happens to any recordings that get placed/spanned onto an external drive, and the external drive, or any of the connection points fail, or lose a good connection...

    Once I have my new NAS server built, I'll actually be doing as you suggested, without the issues of an expander, with my NAS server.

    When you have folders of programming, in SD, that have 300+ recordings in them, it's just much easier to set the SPM to "keep until I delete", than to manually keep moving the "keep until" date forward.

    So, thanks again, and sorry if I offended you.
  4. Aug 10, 2013 #684 of 1049

    scole250 Member

    Nov 8, 2005
    Goldsboro, NC
    FWIW, I took a survey from Tivo a few months ago that was heavy on stream type questions. At the time I didn't consider the mini or stream important to me. I've since bought a Slingbox so we could watch our Tivo'd shows while on vacation instead of packing a Tivo (yeah, done it). I'm hoping for Slingbox type, none local network restricted, type access.
  5. Aug 10, 2013 #685 of 1049

    bareyb Under Maintenance TCF Club

    Dec 1, 2000
    Silicon Valley
    I would love a Slingbox type feature for TiVo. Somehow I doubt they'll do it. It would be way too popular and make people much too happy. :p
  6. Aug 10, 2013 #686 of 1049

    innocentfreak Active Member

    Aug 25, 2001
    I really hope the new TiVo Desktop is true. While the cloud will be nice unless I can increase the buffer so the content plays like a local recording, streaming will never be a great solution for me. I rewind, fast forward, and trickplay too many shows to have a good streaming experience. It is why I don't use Netflix or Amazon Prime.
  7. Aug 10, 2013 #687 of 1049

    HerronScott Well-Known Member

    Jan 1, 2002
    Staunton, VA
    APM would also appear to be limited to 2TB like MBR for the same reasons (32-bit with 512 byte sectors)?

  8. Aug 11, 2013 #688 of 1049

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

    Apr 17, 2000
    I just did a TiVo survey where they asked about some Stream related features. There were questions about various potential features, most relating to platforms and out of home streaming. However one I found interesting was it asked if I'd be interesting in being able to transfer protected shows to my iPad if it meant the show would be deleted fome the source TiVo after the transfer completed. So essentially they would be "moving" rather then "copying" to get around the copy once restriction. That would be a pretty cool feature.

    The other cool one mentioned the possibility of a website where you could access your shows rather then having to use a specific app. That would be pretty cool too and should open up streaming to more devices.
  9. Aug 11, 2013 #689 of 1049

    ggieseke Well-Known Member

    May 30, 2008
  10. Aug 11, 2013 #690 of 1049

    sneagle Addicted Member TCF Club

    Jun 11, 2002
    New York area
    My guess is that any cloud based feature would involve fees. While the idea sounds great, I doubt I would pay for it.
  11. Aug 11, 2013 #691 of 1049

    sbiller Active Member

    May 10, 2002
    Tampa, FL
    Both those features sound awesome! It appears that a lot of items are converging that could allow TiVo to leapfrog some of the competition. It will be interesting to see if they are able to execute this transition without a raft of bugs. I'm also curious whether or not they'll mess with the service costs or keep the status quo. I'm also noticing and hearing from sources that TiVo's back-end servers / data center(s) have been having some issues with scalability as they rapidly add cable-partner customers and continue to add retail customers at a rate of about 8,000 per month (my estimate). I expect that the gross subscriber adds we will see in q3 and q4 could be double that number.
  12. Aug 11, 2013 #692 of 1049

    tomhorsley Well-Known Member

    Jul 22, 2010
    My guess is the cloud based feature would also involve preventing you from skipping commercials and probably have control latency so awful that it would make the HDUI look snappy by comparison.
  13. Aug 11, 2013 #693 of 1049

    moyekj Well-Known Member

    Jan 23, 2006
    I already get pretty close to my ISP data limit of 250GB/month (with help of Netflix & Amazon downloads), so any significant addition would put me over the top consistently. I've never actually received a warning for going over even though it's happened a few times, but ISP data limits eventually are going to be a problem forcing one to pay more, especially as transition to IPTV materializes. Also if TiVo solution means uploading your own recorded shows to cloud (transcoded) I wouldn't like that at all.
  14. Aug 11, 2013 #694 of 1049

    wco81 Member

    Dec 28, 2001
    San Jose, CA
    Moving content would only make sense if you can play it back on the big screen through AirPlay or something similar that lets you stream from the mobile device to the big screen.

    But for HBO content, it's moot because HBO Go for iPad supports AirPlay. Showtime Anytime app. does not though.

    Which shows are protected other than those from premium channels? Does FX or AMC protect their shows?
  15. Aug 11, 2013 #695 of 1049

    cwoody222 Active Member

    Nov 13, 1999
    Buffalo, NY
    Tme Warner copy protects EVERYTHING except local broadcast channels which effectively cripples features like this.
  16. Aug 11, 2013 #696 of 1049

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

    Apr 17, 2000
    Depends on yur cable prvider. Some cable providers protect everything except the local channels.

    I agree that there would need to be some way to move it back to your TiVo or play it on your TV if a move feature was offered.
  17. Aug 11, 2013 #697 of 1049

    sbiller Active Member

    May 10, 2002
    Tampa, FL
    Could they circumvent the flags if they delete the video on the source DVR?
  18. Aug 11, 2013 #698 of 1049

    b_scott TiVo Fan

    Nov 27, 2006
    chicago, il
    everything I've read about TW makes them seem like they are terrible. I feel sorry for anyone who has no other option.
  19. Aug 11, 2013 #699 of 1049

    davezatz Funkadelic

    Apr 18, 2002
    When it comes to SDV and copy flags, yeah... but their mobile and Roku (!) apps are notable.
  20. Aug 11, 2013 #700 of 1049

    wco81 Member

    Dec 28, 2001
    San Jose, CA

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