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TiVo prepping nex generation DVRs

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by bradleys, Jun 17, 2013.

  1. Aug 9, 2013 #621 of 1049
    innocentfreak

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    I don't disagree.

    However I am guessing that the 4 tuner model has increased costs due to the addition of OTA. There could also be an issue where they have leftover units from their previous orders depending on how many units they needed to get the prices where they wanted.

    We could see a 1TB model a year from now similar to how they released a refreshed Premiere.
     
  2. Aug 9, 2013 #622 of 1049
    lessd

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    Retail Hard drive cost may have only a small correlation to high volume OEM Hard Drive cost.
     
  3. Aug 9, 2013 #623 of 1049
    jkain

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    Do you suppose the new TiVOs will also include a consistent user interface from top to bottom? I was pretty surprised during my 2 weeks with an XL4 that the new HD user interface is only for the top couple of levels. Anything else and you're time-warped back a decade (also surprising given that they claim 400+ in R&D - really??).
     
  4. Aug 9, 2013 #624 of 1049
    Grakthis

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    I'm not sure a 4 tuner, 500GB TiVo for 199 does anything for me. I mean, am I really willing to rebuy hardware just for 2 tuners on one TV? The whole conflict thing just doesn't happen that often and since I have 2 TVs and 2 TiVos I just record it in the other room instead. Even making the UI snappier probably isn't enough to justify rebuying hardware when I have working hardware already.

    Come on, TiVo, you have to give me a reason to want to upgrade. Give me an android app and built in stream. Give me Amazon Instant Streaming. Give me DIAL support. Give me a windows 8 app for streaming from the TiVo (or just a regular windows app, whatever).

    Giving me 2 more tuners and faster hardware is not worth $200. If my premiere or S3 broke, sure, I'd buy one of these happily. But it's not an incentive to upgrade from what I have right now.
     
  5. Aug 9, 2013 #625 of 1049
    sbiller

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    TiVo is way more interested in new customers versus customers upgrading from their current TiVo's.
     
  6. Aug 9, 2013 #626 of 1049
    drebbe

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    mr_smits

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    I'm OTA supplemented with Netflix streaming and Amazon downloads/iPad streaming. I have 2 lifetimed Premieres, one with an upgraded hard drive. I also have a lifetimed TivoHD.

    I was thinking the same thing about not sure if it is worth it to upgrade, but the advantages are significant to buy a Roamio and add a Mini or two.

    1. 4 tuners on one box. No more conflicts even during the busy season.
    2. All shows in one place. I don't have to remember which box has which episodes. I don't have to manage multiple season passes.
    3. Faster experience. The new processor should be amazing. It needs to be quick and all signs say it will be.
    4. Stream capable (and Android eventually). It will be nice to have the ability to Stream built in. I hope this is built in to even the OTA model.
    5. Cost savings. The TivoHD and the Premiere boxes consume a lot more electricity than a Mini does. While not a ton of money, I'd rather save it than spend it on old hardware.

    Looking forward to learning what the Roamio boxes consume electricity wise.
     
  8. Aug 9, 2013 #628 of 1049
    richbrew

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    That was an interesting read. If anyone has any questions as to what TiVo thinks of analog tuners, this tells you everything you need to know.

    28 Waiver Request at iii, 12-13. TiVo states in its Waiver Request that it tracked consumer response to the previous
    waiver it received, and only 0.2 % of subscribers commented to TiVo about the absence of analog tuning ability, and
    only 0.05% of customers cancelled their subscriptions as a result. Waiver Request at ii.
     
  9. Aug 9, 2013 #629 of 1049
    b_scott

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    does this mean if there was a conflict it would auto send the recording request to the other box?
     
  10. Aug 9, 2013 #630 of 1049
    bradleys

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    No, this means that you can pair a TiVo Mini and it will dynamically select and release a live tuner when in use.
     
  11. Aug 9, 2013 #631 of 1049
    socrplyr

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    No that is referring to Tivo Mini's use of the DVR's tuners. Right now, a Mini will "steal" the tuner even when not using it, thus reducing the pool of tuners available for recording. In the future, they will only "steal" a tuner when someone wants to watch live TV from a Mini. The Minis have no tuners themselves, so there is nowhere to send a recording too.

    Tivo's multi-room solution going forward is to have 1 DVR (hub) with multiple Minis (spokes). They are not and probably will not ever support cooperative scheduling between DVRs (especially with the hub-spoke model).
     
  12. Aug 9, 2013 #632 of 1049
    b_scott

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    Ahh...

    well I don't know if I like that second part. But I guess it wouldn't really change much from the user side.

    sounds like Dish hoppers.
     
  13. Aug 9, 2013 #633 of 1049
    sbiller

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    And the live tuner, when released, would be available for recording(s).
     
  14. Aug 9, 2013 #634 of 1049
    SugarBowl

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    I should have responded. I'm OTA for HD and analog cable for the rest.
     
  15. Aug 9, 2013 #635 of 1049
    lpwcomp

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    Ideally, you should be able to start a recording from the Mini that would save the live buffer of whatever tuner it is currently using.
     
  16. Aug 9, 2013 #636 of 1049
    Dan203

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    I doubt it. They'll probably add a few more screens like WL and maybe Browse By Time/Channel, but I'm betting most of the settings section will remain SD for this initial release.

    I'm also betting that the option to switch to a pure SD interface goes away, and that eventually, some day, they will complete the settings section in HD as well.
     
  17. Aug 9, 2013 #637 of 1049
    Dan203

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    These units wont do analog at all, so you'll need to stick with the 2 tuner Premiere or at least keep one around until you have access to pure digital. I'm in the same boat. My cable company still has about 35 channels that are analog only. Until they at least start to simulcast I'm stuck keeping a 2 tuner Premiere around for recording those stations.
     
  18. Aug 9, 2013 #638 of 1049
    lpwcomp

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    I hope they don't do that unless they make it so the HDUI is useable when the TiVo is connected to a non-HD TV.
     
  19. Aug 9, 2013 #639 of 1049
    nooneuknow

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    Cox Cable...
    :up:
     
  20. Aug 9, 2013 #640 of 1049
    Philmatic

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    Define "usable"? The HDUI works fine on non-HD displays? It's just a tight, but works fine.
     

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