Every brand and product has its fanboys. Apple certainly has a lot but there are still valid Apple discussions out there. Like anything else you always have to consider the (individual) source and you can't prejudge any group of people based solely on a subgroup. Further, you don't have to respond to the fanboys. I have also noticed a trend amongst the dissatisfied to assume that anyone else that isn't also dissatisfied to be a fanboy. The thing is that usage and needs/wants/preferences/priorities vary from person to person no matter what the topic. One has to keep in mind that the differences can and do affect an individual's satisfaction with any given solution. I think we all know how "When you assume..." ends as well. Again, satisfaction is a highly subjective matter and it shouldn't be difficult to see that reflected in countless everyday examples in the real world. I've been very happy with my TivoHD but my expectations are just for it to be an appliance to collect recordings off cable. I don't use it for streaming, MRV or have any expectations for it to be the "one box" or whole household solution. Like others, I'm certainly aware of its shortcomings and Tivo's seemingly slow progress but compared to the alternatives I've tried it fits my needs and expectations very well. YMMV as with any subjective matter.