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TiVo prepping nex generation DVRs

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by bradleys, Jun 17, 2013.

  1. Jul 11, 2013 #401 of 1049
    takeshi

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    Every brand and product has its fanboys. Apple certainly has a lot but there are still valid Apple discussions out there. Like anything else you always have to consider the (individual) source and you can't prejudge any group of people based solely on a subgroup. Further, you don't have to respond to the fanboys. I have also noticed a trend amongst the dissatisfied to assume that anyone else that isn't also dissatisfied to be a fanboy. The thing is that usage and needs/wants/preferences/priorities vary from person to person no matter what the topic. One has to keep in mind that the differences can and do affect an individual's satisfaction with any given solution.

    I think we all know how "When you assume..." ends as well. ;)

    Again, satisfaction is a highly subjective matter and it shouldn't be difficult to see that reflected in countless everyday examples in the real world. I've been very happy with my TivoHD but my expectations are just for it to be an appliance to collect recordings off cable. I don't use it for streaming, MRV or have any expectations for it to be the "one box" or whole household solution. Like others, I'm certainly aware of its shortcomings and Tivo's seemingly slow progress but compared to the alternatives I've tried it fits my needs and expectations very well. YMMV as with any subjective matter.
     
  2. Jul 11, 2013 #402 of 1049
    Bigg

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    I think the increase in tuners and some people being able to consolidate down to fewer cable card(s) will drive a switch over rather rapidly. People with providers who offer low cost cable cards or use OTA and don't mind having a bunch of individual boxes are set to benefit.
     
  3. Jul 12, 2013 #403 of 1049
    Joe3

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    I think we all stand firm despite any inessential difference of opinion base on individual circumstance. It is clear that everyone here wants the best out of TiVo in this next go round with the S5. Also, those who where around when the S3 first came out are hoping and excepting TiVo to return to at least that standard of quality, reliability, and innovation.

    I almost feel sorry for those of you who came after the S3 was first released and had to settle for a lower quality standard that instead flooded you with a bunch of bells and whistle features with no real punch. The up side, if Tivo returns to that quality standard, you guys are gonna wet your pants. I guarantee it.
     
  4. Jul 12, 2013 #404 of 1049
    aaronwt

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    I still don't get it. I had three S3 boxes I purchased in 2006. My S4 boxes have been better in almost every way. Especially cost. The S3 retailed for $800. The only TiVos I spent more on were my DirecTV HD TiVOs from Spring 2004.

    I have no desire for the S5 to go back to that bulky, heavy, expensive box that the original S3 box was. Sure for a 2006 box it was good, but I don't want anything like it from a TiVo in 2013.
     
  5. Jul 12, 2013 #405 of 1049
    Philmatic

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    I actually agree... I loved my S3 when it first came out, the interface was speedy, HD was fantastic and the whole concept of CableCard worked well.


    But it was a $700 device, WITHOUT service. That always annoyed me. They went the right route with the premier line. Cheaper hardware cheaper prices, now if they can only keep their pesky service fees in line! :)
     
  6. Jul 12, 2013 #406 of 1049
    nooneuknow

    nooneuknow TiVo User Since 2007

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    I wouldn't want to go back to that almost literally bullet-proof, heavy and bulky case, either. The quality of the Premiere cases is comparable to any other TV accessory, or most other consumer electronics device of this day/age.

    I bought the last of the clearance TiVo HDs that BlockBuster had before they went under, AFTER buying my Premieres. Both the HDMI ports have failed mechanically on the TiVoHD units, which have been stacked with the Premieres on top, and given equal treatment/care. So, I don't see much of a quality in form-factor argument.

    I also agree with an earlier post, by somebody, that if the quality of the parts that truly matter, inside the new product line are like what the S3 OLED was, back in it's prime-time, and are such a big leap, performance-wise, compared to what came before, we'll all wet ourselves.

    I'm expecting to be underwhelmed and disappointed, so that IF they do it RIGHT this time, I can be the exact polar opposite. :D
     
  7. Jul 12, 2013 #407 of 1049
    jfh3

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    Ditto. I have two early Elites and have never seen the untuned channel issue.
     
  8. Jul 15, 2013 #408 of 1049
    trip1eX

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    I'm pretty sure Tivo sold them for $300 plus $500 for lifetime or $800 at launch.
     
  9. Jul 15, 2013 #409 of 1049
    trip1eX

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    The effect is the same to the consumer. NO VoD. Not that I really like VoD. The interface sucks in the VoD setups I've used - Comcast and FiOS although I remember Comcast more than FiOS. But it is handy if you miss a show or hear about a show that was just launched a few weeks ago and want to see the first couple episodes. Also good if you are recording more shows than you have tuners. YOu can drop a show that is already on VoD.
     
  10. Jul 15, 2013 #410 of 1049
    innocentfreak

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    Nope. When the Premiere launched it was still $299 for MSD and $399 for new lifetimers.

    When they dropped the price to $99 they rolled out the new lifetime rates at $399 and $499. This is how some people picked up the Premiere for $400 because they got the $99 Premiere prior to the new lifetime rates being announced on a Sunday. Electronics Expo shipped the $99 TiVos early.
     
  11. Jul 15, 2013 #411 of 1049
    atmuscarella

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    Nope never sold for that much. If you would like to see the price points TiVo offered the Premiere at, I tracked them in this thread:
     
  12. Jul 15, 2013 #412 of 1049
    Bigg

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    It's really not that useful. I've used it a couple of times, but I didn't miss it when I didn't have it (MCE and TiVo pre-VOD rollout in my market).

    The problem with TiVo and VOD is that you may not have a tuner available to use it, so you may not be able to get to VOD at a busy time. Better to just record everything like TiVo was meant to do.
     
  13. Jul 16, 2013 #413 of 1049
    lessd

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    That was exactly how it worked, also if you had purchased a TP before the price drop and called TiVo they would give you the old Lifetime price. Some people did cheat on this process, there was also a time when TiVo gave some good customers a Lifetime price of $199 for a new $99 TiVo. There was some real anger about this $199 price because some bragged about it and other could not get that price.
     
  14. Jul 16, 2013 #414 of 1049
    slowbiscuit

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    Yep, I picked up and resold a couple of $99 Premieres at the $199 lifetime price during that short window of time, made a couple hundred bucks on each I think.
     
  15. Jul 16, 2013 #415 of 1049
    aaronwt

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    They also offered lifetime for $199 for the Premiere at launch. To owners of the S3 boxes. But they were also charging more for the actual box a launch too.

    I just hope they do some deals for the S5 launch too.
     
  16. Jul 16, 2013 #416 of 1049
    lessd

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    Your bragging now, and some on this forum may get angry again about not getting that deal.
     
  17. Jul 16, 2013 #417 of 1049
    bareyb

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    WHAT!!!!????? I never got that deal!!!!!! :mad::mad::mad:

    ;)
     
  18. Jul 16, 2013 #418 of 1049
    nooneuknow

    nooneuknow TiVo User Since 2007

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    The original thread from that time, when that one-day loophole was in effect turned into a real DISASTER!

    TiVo didn't have to honor that loophole. They could've used their legal might against the retailers that released the lower-priced units early, and just forced a refund of the purchase price. Instead, TiVo took the high road.

    That's all anybody needs to know. If you want to dig into the subject, that old thread still exists.

    Please, let's not turn this thread into what became of that one, and just drop the subject. It's old news, ancient history, now. It happened, it's over, and bragging about it WILL get people angry, or trying to get something that I'm VERY sure TiVo won't let happen again.
     
  19. Jul 16, 2013 #419 of 1049
    Aero 1

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    amazon even had them at $75, but i dont remember if it was in the cheap lifetime price window. regardless, still a great price

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  20. Jul 18, 2013 #420 of 1049
    trip1eX

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    Oh really? Ok.

    I think my points still stands which was that the Premiere was expensive at release even if it was just $700 and not $800. :D
     

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