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TiVo prepping nex generation DVRs

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by bradleys, Jun 17, 2013.

  1. Jun 27, 2013 #201 of 1049
    Dan203

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    Did anyone else notice that the previous gen units were lumped together as....

    TCD750500 / TCD758250

    And this new entry is listed as.....

    Series 5/TCD848000

    Maybe those are two different models? Maybe one of the two units doesn't have a model number yet so it's currently just designated as "Series 5"?
     
  2. Jun 27, 2013 #202 of 1049
    innocentfreak

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    If they just use the last three, it could be 1,2, or 3TB. Still it could be the base Premiere 4 if just 1TB.
     
  3. Jun 27, 2013 #203 of 1049
    Dan203

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    They probably wont use the model number to indicate HD size anymore. They have that 8 in there to differentiate between standard and XL units. Could just be...

    TCD848000 = XL
    TCD840000 = standard

    And maybe the 6 tuner will be TCD858000/TCD850000
     
  4. Jun 27, 2013 #204 of 1049
    BigJimOutlaw

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    Could be. But if they are similar enough to be lumped together, their model # convention should be rather easy. TCD848000/TCD846000 for example.

    I tend to believe there will only be one 4-tuner model. Perhaps this is the lone 4-tuner model with the 6-tuner models with multiple configs still to come.

    Oy. Who knows. So funny how these little nuggets make us go nuts with guesses. :) At least we know they consider this gen a Series 5. Heh.
     
  5. Jun 27, 2013 #205 of 1049
    P42

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    Based on the MoCA certification of prior Tivo, how long after do they typically show up on shelves?
     
  6. Jun 27, 2013 #206 of 1049
    BigJimOutlaw

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    I don't know if it's a direct indicator. The answer is always vaguely "months". But all separate clues point to Sept/Oct.

    This reminds me though, if there is integrated wifi as rumored, technically I believe there should also be an FCC certification as well if there wasn't one already. Dave found the BT remote test, was there ever a test found for the WiFi?
     
  7. Jun 27, 2013 #207 of 1049
    Dan203

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    The Elite (aka XL4) was certified on 8/16/11 and the press release announcing it was on 9/7/11. However the Mini was certified on 9/11/12 and and the pres release announcing it was on 3/11/13. So somewhere between 3 weeks and 5 months. :)
     
  8. Jun 27, 2013 #208 of 1049
    sbiller

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    Probably heavily dependent on the timing of new software. The hardware is likely waiting at this point for the FCC waiver to be issued sometime in July.
     
  9. Jun 27, 2013 #209 of 1049
    davezatz

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    Maybe... if WiFi and/or RF is integrated into a (Broadcom) chip that's already been approved, they may not have to do any additional certification. While I don't think TiVo would bother, it's also possible to be somewhat sneaky with FCC filings by using the hardware manufacturer or testing firm names. Of course, I'm continuing to scan - but the collective is more than welcome to assist!

    In fact, I'll pass along one of my vectors... just don't tip off Engadget Richard before you tip me if we hit pay dirt. ;)

    http://certifications.wi-fi.org/sea...h=1&advanced=1&lang=en&filter_company_id=2020
     
  10. Jun 27, 2013 #210 of 1049
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    nrc

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    I don't pad Mythbusters and I don't recall ever missing the ending.
     
  12. Jun 27, 2013 #212 of 1049
    morac

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    For me the recording frequently ends right before they give the final result: busted, plausible or confirmed.
     
  13. Jun 27, 2013 #213 of 1049
    aaronwt

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    None of the Broadcom devices on that page are 2.0 certified. They are 1.1 and 1.0 certified.
     
  14. Jun 27, 2013 #214 of 1049
    Bigg

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    Same. Kind of annoying to have to Google it right after. So I pad now.
     
  15. Jun 27, 2013 #215 of 1049
    MeInDallas

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    It is actually funny to watch everyone go on and on with speculation everyday :D
     
  16. Jun 28, 2013 #216 of 1049
    wco81

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    I need a new DVR now.

    Hope this is worth waiting for ...
     
  17. Jun 28, 2013 #217 of 1049
    magnus

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    Yep, I'm getting to point where I don't even care. They just release a half completed product anyway and never complete it before the next version and then say they're not going to complete the old product so that they can focus on the new one.
     
  18. Jun 28, 2013 #218 of 1049
    innocentfreak

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    If we didn't speculate, there would be nothing to really talk about.

    Still no finished HDUI, Still no Android Stream support, No new features in the last update, etc.
     
  19. Jun 28, 2013 #219 of 1049
    bradleys

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    Honest question - what does finished HDUI really mean? Is the product not finished if the "settings" screens are not HDUI?

    What screen do you commonly use that is still a jarring switch between HUDI and SDUI?

    I am far less concerned about "finishing the UI" then I am about a faster processor, 6 tuners, dynamic tuner allocation and the such...

    I get the annoyance of no Android Stream support - I don't have any android devices - but at least it makes some sense to me as a concern.

    Personally, I am patiently waiting for a new TiVo desktop implementation that streams to my Surface tablet.
     
  20. Jun 28, 2013 #220 of 1049
    innocentfreak

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    I think it is more an issue of launching a new generation of products over three years after launch without the entire UI converted to HDUI. The first thing in every review will be TiVo launched their new boxes and we have a hands on. Even though it is over 3 years since the launch of the Premiere TiVo and TiVo is launching a new generation they still have not finished the HDUI.

    It isn't about what screens I use though I do go in settings pretty regularly, but more about launching a new product when your last product wasn't completely upgraded to a "New HD user interface for optimized search & discovery". SD screens does not a HDUI make.

    You never want to launch a new product when the general consensus is your last product isn't finished. It doesn't leave a good taste. While we can assume any future development we see on the new series 5 will come back to the Premiere unless the chip isn't fast enough, it still isn't a good thing when you want people to buy your new hardware.

    I will buy one because I don't have a choice since family is waiting on my Elite, but if I had a choice I would wait until TiVo shows me they can finish what they started before shifting focus.
     

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