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TiVo prepping nex generation DVRs

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by bradleys, Jun 17, 2013.

  1. Jun 27, 2013 #181 of 1049
    BigJimOutlaw

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    We have a model number -- Series 5/TCD848000

    On the MoCA Alliance webpage, they list devices that are MoCA certified and this was just recently added.

    The head scratcher is that it's MoCA 1.1 certified when the most likely Broadcom chip is 2.0 certified... Going with a separate Entropic or similar solution instead?
     
  2. Jun 27, 2013 #182 of 1049
    Philmatic

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    Nice find! Tweeted to Dave Zatz and Richard Lawler of Engadget.
     
  3. Jun 27, 2013 #183 of 1049
    sbiller

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    Very nice! :up:
     
  4. Jun 27, 2013 #184 of 1049
    Philmatic

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    Weird that only one device was certified. Hopefully it's a process and not that only one of new devices has MoCA, that would be disappointing.
     
  5. Jun 27, 2013 #185 of 1049
    sbiller

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    Hmmm... Only one box?
     
  6. Jun 27, 2013 #186 of 1049
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    Have the model numbers actually ever meant anything? I know in the past it gave us an idea of hard drive.

    Also what if they end up using two different Broadcom chips. I would hope they opt for a better chip in the 6 tuner since we know how well it worked in the 2 vs 4 tuner using the same chip. Maybe the second box is still going through certification.
     
  7. Jun 27, 2013 #187 of 1049
    BigJimOutlaw

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    I've been keeping an eye on the page. This was added in the last day or 2. There could be more to come. We just keep watching I guess.
     
  8. Jun 27, 2013 #188 of 1049
    Philmatic

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    It could mean a 1TB model, but TiVo started being inconsistent with this when the TiVo Premiere XL4 came out:

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    Previously the last 3/4 digits determined the size of the internal drive, with all zeros denoting 1 TB, not so much anymore.

    EDIT: The Wiki is wrong, it is likely to be a 1TB model. :(
     
  9. Jun 27, 2013 #189 of 1049
    davezatz

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    Thanks! Probably can't do anything with the tidbit tonight as I got some familial obligations (and I've got a couple other irons in the fire I may wait on...). One device listing is interesting, as we know there are at least two models (consisting of at least three configs) in play. Hm. Perhaps a lower-end model won't include MoCA or it's a delay in certification or staggered release. IF I HAD to place a wager, I'd bet we'll see another one show up before too long.
     
  10. Jun 27, 2013 #190 of 1049
    Dan203

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    Hmmm... What's the TCDA90000? I know the TCDA92000 is the Mini and TCDA94000 is the Stream, but what's the TCDA90000?
     
  11. Jun 27, 2013 #191 of 1049
    davezatz

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    I don't have time to research now, but it's probably the Preview.
     
  12. Jun 27, 2013 #192 of 1049
    BigJimOutlaw

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    The 90000 is the Preview. It has MoCA.

    I'm guessing the second 8 suggests this model is of the THX/Glo Remote/XL variety. As the PXL was "748", XL4 was "758", and the TivoHD XL was "658". So perhaps this is the rumored > 2 TB (3TB?) configuration. Not sure.
     
  13. Jun 27, 2013 #193 of 1049
    Philmatic

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    The Preview or Q? Whatever was the Cable-only unit. Makes sense since the certification dates back to 4/12/2011.
     
  14. Jun 27, 2013 #194 of 1049
    Dan203

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    Ahhh.. OK. I forgot about the Preview. :)
     
  15. Jun 27, 2013 #195 of 1049
    Dan203

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    Maybe they only applied for 1.1 certification? The Mini is only capable of 1.1 so they may not actually need 2.0 features. Or this could be the 4 tuner unit and it uses a lesser chip then what we expect to be in the 6 tuner unit.
     
  16. Jun 27, 2013 #196 of 1049
    BigJimOutlaw

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    Any guesses what OSP stands for? All of the other Tivo models there have an OSP distinction.

    Edit: Nevermind. "An OSP device is intended for installation for special applications only by service providers and is not usually available in the retail market." (This doesn't really apply since we do have retail products with these model numbers.)
     
  17. Jun 27, 2013 #197 of 1049
    BigJimOutlaw

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    It's possible. Can the integrated MoCA properly function as a bridge like the P4/XL4 solution does? Perhaps it was necessary to go off-chip to maintain bridging. And cheaper 1.1 chips should be "good enough" especially since the Mini and everything else is 1.1 and can't go higher anyway.
     
  18. Jun 27, 2013 #198 of 1049
    Philmatic

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    Does the Broadcom chip allow them to provide MoCA bridging capabilities? Maybe it was a choice between MoCA 2.0 and no bridging capabilities and MoCA 1.1 with bridging.
     
  19. Jun 27, 2013 #199 of 1049
    BigJimOutlaw

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    Yeah, that's what I'm figuring.
     
  20. Jun 27, 2013 #200 of 1049
    Dan203

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    Hmmm... could be. The details of the Broadcom chip are sort of vague, so I'm not sure if it does bridging. If not then this is a good theory.
     

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