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TiVo Premiere to add Xfinity on Demand

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by innocentfreak, May 9, 2011.

  1. Sep 9, 2011 #81 of 453
    Endymion_

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    Well see, the TiVo Premiere faq item that I saw at comcast's site, as brief as it was, was very clear and rather opposite to your bolded copy from the press release. I wouldn't have taken big stock on the comcast faq if I hadn't seen it for myself (which is why I can't blame you for wanting to stick with the earlier press release) or if it hadn't been posted since the press release. (Which it was.)

    I guess I'd better go scour this forum to find the url before any more doubting Thomases come along.
     
  2. Sep 9, 2011 #82 of 453
    Endymion_

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    Jumpin jehosephat, can't post links with only 2 posts.
     
  3. Sep 9, 2011 #83 of 453
    hybucket

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    A friend of mine here in Boston has the TiVO software on his DVR, and it is quirky at best, and he has to reboot every couple of days for one thing or another. The only reason he uses it at all is because he hates the Motorola DVR interface.
    As for Netflix vs. OnDemand, Netflix is far better for movies and older TV shows. I would like the OnDemand if for nothing else than the ability to watch BBCA shows in HD. Unbelievable that Comcast has YET to get the BBCA HD feed, and yet they show BBCA shows in HD from On Demand. What's the story with that?? No one at Comcast seems to have the answer.
     
  4. Sep 9, 2011 #84 of 453
    hummingbird_206

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    I'm able to watch Netflix through my S3's no problem, though I know that's not the case for all TiVo owners, so to me it's the On Demand service that I'm missing.

    As for BBCA in HD, my most recent bill from Comcast says that BBCA HD will be added to my lineup starting Sept 20. I'm in the Seattle area.
     
  5. Sep 9, 2011 #85 of 453
    hummingbird_206

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    I think it's at 5 you can, so you're almost there!
     
  6. Sep 9, 2011 #86 of 453
    hybucket

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    I've been posting since 2004, and I couldn't post a link earlier today.

    As for BBCA, I think I should move to Seattle.
     
  7. Sep 9, 2011 #87 of 453
    hummingbird_206

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    Link test. Working for me. Wonder if something is hosed in your account? There is a min number of posts required to be able to post links, but at 300+ you're well past that.
     
  8. Sep 9, 2011 #88 of 453
    hybucket

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    I may have figured out what happened. I just tested it, and it works fine for a regular link. THe link I tried posting before was shortened, and maybe that's a no-no (and it was again deleted this time by asterisks).
     
  9. Sep 9, 2011 #89 of 453
    Endymion_

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    You're right, it is 5, but it seems to be bad form to spam up the place with posts just so I can... well, post?
     
  10. Sep 9, 2011 #90 of 453
    hummingbird_206

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    I see no problem with it. :)
     
  11. Sep 9, 2011 #91 of 453
    Endymion_

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    Why the hell not, if the system can be gamed.
     
  12. Sep 9, 2011 #92 of 453
    Endymion_

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    Okay so here we go. Click here and you will find comcast's TiVo information page, which as you can see shows several screens of TiVo Premiere displaying comcast on demand. From this page you can see links to other items, including a faq list, a demo, a manual, etc. etc. etc. If you look at the PDF files showing the "tip card" and the manual you will first see that the TiVo remote you know and love has "comcast" branded on it, somehow I doubt that the TiVo Premiere itself will be spared this similar branding but the reason that I point it out is to show that this is a product made specifically for comcast. Also, you will see TiVo screenshots that look decidedly like the Premiere, but incredibly comcastic as well, sadly. In other words it appears the TiVo interface and guide has been crapped out in favour of Comcast's. This means something has been reprogrammed. We have absolutely no information anywhere that I can see that this programming is not required for comcast's VOD, i.e. that you need their TiVo Premiere.

    A lot of the stuff in all of these links simply wasn't there when I first came across this page, a month or two ago, however one bit that is still there now has not changed. Also linked from the above is this FAQ which I mentioned. Near the bottom you see tell that you do not deal with the TiVo company when using this TiVo Premiere, all of your billing and account information is with comcast. If that weren't depressing enough just hit the link that says "Already have a Tivo? Activate Online Scheduler now." Fine print at the bottom of this page states "Comcast TiVo Online Scheduler is not compatible with retail TiVo devices. Comcast Digital Cable with TiVo service available in limited geographic areas."

    So in light of seeing where the implementation appears to be heading, I'd like to see something more substantial than the press release before I get too excited about the prospects of using comcast's VOD on my retail TiVo Premieres. If there's a plus side to this (and if I'm right about my suspicion), it also appears that a lot of the better features of the TiVo Premiere have been removed. I see no netflix, pandora, youtube etc. in the screenshot images they provide, so I'd guess that is being removed for the "comcastic" box. If they actually DO update our TiVo Premieres to allow us to capture comcast's VOD, there's no way in hell that TiVo would allow the removal of those features, and if we never get comcast VOD directly to retail Premiere units, at least we still have those features that the comcastic box lacks.
     
  13. Sep 9, 2011 #93 of 453
    rainwater

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    I'm pretty sure those screenshots are just showing the TiVo interface that was available in a few markets on existing boxes (and pretty much bombed out). I don't see what that has to do with the Premiere.
     
  14. Sep 9, 2011 #94 of 453
    Endymion_

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    They look a lot more like the Premiere's screens, albeit with a different guide, than the older retail TiVos. I'll admit I haven't seen previous TiVo models that comcast may have had, but what I see there looked similar to other photos I had seen of the Virgin TiVo guide. (Edit: Actually I guess you are right, just looked for a copyright date on the manual and it shows 2009 so this is for an older box.) Also, the wording of the press release reminds me of another bit that I came up against with comcast recently which is even more food for thought here.

    I've got telephone service with comcast, and in order to use that I need their EMTA cable modem. There are EMTAs that you can purchase yourself, but if you are going to use an EMTA for telephone service with comcast, you absolutely need to purchase their EMTA. When I finally had enough of paying their leasing fee for the EMTA, I had to look high and low to find one to purchase, and it turned out best buy was the only store "authorized" to sell the proper EMTA modems I needed. Now bear in mind, this was "at retail," but it was still a modem made for comcast, packaged by comcast, to their specifications.
     
  15. Sep 9, 2011 #95 of 453
    aadam101

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    Those are not the Premiere screens. Those pages have nothing to do with the Premiere. Those pages are for the Motorola DVR with Comcast software. They were available only in the Boston market and they have canceled that plan.

    Let's take a look back at history. Tivo/Comcast announced a partnership in 2005 to bring the Motorola DVR with Tivo software to market. It took them 3 years to do it. The box wasn't released until 2008 and even then was a huge failure for both companies.

    I don't know why anyone is getting excited over this new partnership. I have no reason to believe that any Comcast/Tivo product will surface anytime in the near future. Tivo doesn't do business this way. They announce their products YEARS in advance. They have done this over and over again.
     
  16. Sep 9, 2011 #96 of 453
    hummingbird_206

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    I happen to be a gullible optimist when it comes to something I want. And I really want the Premiere Elite to have Xfinity On Demand capability.:eek:
     
  17. Sep 9, 2011 #97 of 453
    aadam101

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    It could happen. I imagine this is much easier to implement than the first deal was. Hopefully, Tivo has some Comcast resources.
     
  18. Sep 9, 2011 #98 of 453
    hummingbird_206

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    Thank you for indulging me!:D
     
  19. Sep 10, 2011 #99 of 453
    MichaelK

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    Hopefully we see the pig fly soon....
     
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    I think the failure was with the hardware, 16 hours of HD recording with no upgrade possibility? It killed it for me.

    We used the Motorola boxes with TiVo the day they came out, we had no complaints. They were a TiVo that gave us video on-demand, and a much better online scheduler than TiVo had at the time. The space became an issue and we had to move to a stand alone box, but we never had an issue with reboots, service, missed recordings, sluggish performance, etc. It was a completely painless process to install.

    I wrote up my experience with it when I switched from DIRECTV to Comcast:

    http://www.servicesolution.com/blog/2009/10/07/directv-comcast-tivo/

    I also posted a youtube video showing the online scheduler and comparing to the TiVo provided online scheduler (at the time)

    [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKMo3_ks_G0[/media]
    (fun starts at 1:40)

    I'm hoping they put the 'xfinity' ondemand app on the TiVo Premiere soon, which will probably be the same thing on the computer or the iPad, which is NOT a replica of their OnDemand service, a lot of stuff missing. I can say on a recent cablecard self install, Comcast provided detailed instructions for the TiVo premiere install.
     

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