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TiVo Premiere FAQ: Overview, What's New?

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by bkdtv, Mar 3, 2010.

  1. Apr 5, 2010 #141 of 239
    aaronwt

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    What is the group is Empty bug? I've never noticed it?
     
  2. Apr 5, 2010 #142 of 239
    aaronwt

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    All my Premieres are noticeably faster than my S3/TiVoHD units. So cross number three off.
     
  3. Apr 5, 2010 #143 of 239
    crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    OK, I agree with what you are saying. There are more important/serious bugs. But the "empty group" one annoys me EVERY SINGLE DAY. The other bugs (for me at least) are much less frequent (like screwed up video when transitioning to/from video/menus, and the cable card lockout message- those are the other two that seem fairly regular).

    I mean, seriously, TiVo can't fix HD bugs that have been around for YEARS, but will put out a new, incomplete, and feature-lacking box and claim they will upgrade its software? I guess all us HD owners can now kiss all hope of OUR bugs being fixed.

    I am absolutely BLOWN AWAY that they still have no way to save *hours* worth of settings. That, alone, is enough to make me not want to upgrade! Even my CELL PHONE allows me to save my settings to a card. It is 2010, and they expect us to write everything down on paper and reenter everything and still lose all our ratings forever :(
     
  4. Apr 5, 2010 #144 of 239
    crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    You go into a group (like suggestions) and start deleting some stuff. Poof! "This group is empty and no longer needed" and you get booted to the menu above, then have to go back into the group yet again. Sometimes I have to go through that two or three times A DAY.
     
  5. Apr 5, 2010 #145 of 239
    orangeboy

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    Yep, another candidate for multi-processing. Let the UI chew on X number of deletes with one core while the second core works on more deletes the user requests, or keep one core maintaining the presentable UI while the second core works on deletes.
     
  6. Apr 5, 2010 #146 of 239
    aaronwt

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    I've never had that happen. I have deleted items and it appears that they are all gone, but after a few seconds the rest pop back up. But it's never kicked me out of that screen unless I hit left to exit out by mistake without waiting.
     
  7. Apr 5, 2010 #147 of 239
    aaronwt

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    :confused::confused::confused: Why would you spend all that time writing it down when you can take a few pics and have them printed out in a fraction of the time?

    It's much easier and faster to take a picture and print it out then to write everything down.
     
  8. Apr 5, 2010 #148 of 239
    orangeboy

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    I've not seen this:
    But I have experienced this:
     
  9. Apr 5, 2010 #149 of 239
    innocentfreak

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    Is there any reason you know that the HDUI doesn't display letterboxed on a SD set instead of the way it does now? I would love to play with the new ui but no HD set yet. I guess I just don't get why it does't display like all other HD content .
     
  10. Apr 5, 2010 #150 of 239
    innocentfreak

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    Is there any reason you know that the HDUI doesn't display letterboxed on a SD set instead of the way it does now? I would love to play with the new ui but no HD set yet. I guess I just don't get why it does't display like all other HD content .
     
  11. Apr 5, 2010 #151 of 239
    txporter

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    Even though it isn't possible with the current software, I think you might see this in future updates. At least the new hardware is CAPABLE of decoding a lot more formats than TivoHD/S3 (mpeg2, h.264, vc-1 only on HD/S3).

    Currently, TivoHDs have issues with playback of h.264 material at framerates less than 25fps. Supposedly, this is fixed with Premiere (I don't have one).
     
  12. tivogurl

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    But TiVo is missing key features, like mounting external filesystems. If I have a bunch of ripped DVDs on my home server, it would be great if TiVo could mount the filesystem via NFS or Samba and play them. The same goes for audio: stream from an iTunes server or just mount the filesystem and play the files.

    TiVo is oddly resistant to turning its box into a real media hub.
     
  13. Phantom Gremlin

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    Yes, but this functionality can be provided by 3rd party programs running on a home computer.

    At this point in time I'll say: GOOD!

    The Premiere is still very sadly lacking in basic functionality. Many menus are in SD, the box freezes and reboots, etc. TiVo needs to get the box to at least "beta quality" functionality first. At this point it's barely "alpha quality". But that's IMO from what I read in these forums. I'm not about to buy such a buggy product, so I haven't personally experienced those behaviors.
     
  14. tivogurl

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    But then I'm just duplicating hardware already in the TiVo itself, and the basic filesystem technology already exists in Linux. TiVo is losing customers to Windows Media boxes for that reason: if you're already building a box to play movies and music, the marginal effort to record and play television is minimal. You don't think convergence devices are desirable? I think they're desirable for the same reason not having 20 remotes is desirable.
     
  15. Phantom Gremlin

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    I agree with your comments in general. TiVo has squandered one of the greatest opportunities of the last decade. Their initial product was revolutionary, now they're struggling to even stay relevant.
     
  16. aaronwt

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    No box is good at everything and I doubt ever will be. So I expect to have at least two to three boxes to accomplish all the tasks I need. So far nothing has been better at recording TV than TV. And I am not going to use a PC to get sub par performace when compared to TiVo. And other features that a HTPC can do I use a media player for.

    But again no device is good enough at everything, especially a PC for me to start usingit for everything. If the PC capabilites today would have been available in 2001 it might be a different story for me. But TiVo is the one to beat and so far no one has accomplished that.

    Competitors are getting close, but TiVo is still King of the Hill
     
  17. MichaelK

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    i think "one day"....

    just a few years ago cell phones, pagers, pda's, email only blackberries and crappy digital cameras where all different devices. Now one smartphone can do all that plus be an mp3 player and video recorder and player. HTC is working on phones with 720p HDMI output, and says next year they'll get to "full HD" 1080p playback and recording. There's been some great strides there to put all that in one device that fits in my pocket.

    At some point the brute force of newer chips makes convergence possible.

    I've had pretty much every generation of tivo hardware there was (s1, s1 directive, s2, s2 directivo, s2.5 directivo, hdirectivo, and S3 (no TivoHD)) and I plan to get a premiere or two in the coming months.

    BUT- i am a little perplexed why moore's law doesn't seem to be taking much hold for the TIVO part of the tivo boxes. The UI and basic dvr functionality doesn't seem 50/100 times more powerful than that on my 14hr series 1 in the new premiere. Granted there's plenty of new stuff- HD, streaming, internet, etc. But doesn't seem the actually DVR part is taking advantage of the the new chips- what have they added that's not in the S1- groups? Hard padding and clipping? advanced wishlists? Doesn't seem there's 100 times better function there.
     
  18. eddieb187

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    This may be a stupid question but...
    With my Tivo HD DVR, when playing back a recording I hit the left arrow and the recording would stop and I went to TiVo menus.
    With the Premiere XL, it take me to TiVo central but the recording is still playing in the PIP window??
    The only way I can figure to stop playback of a recording is to press LiveTV.
    Is there another way to stop playback?
     
  19. bkdtv

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    You have three options.

    1. Press pause to pause playback in the video window.

    2. Press SLO MO to disable the video window (which also stops playback).

    3. Disable the video window under Settings -> Displays -> Video Window. Even when disabled, you can still enable the video window temporarily by pressing SLO MO.
     
  20. Phantom Gremlin

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    Moore's law applies to hardware, not software.

    That's why the Premiere has a 320 GB hard drive instead of 30? GB in the original. It has two tuners instead of one. Etc.

    OTOH, the software is buggier than on the initial release of the S1. Which only serves to demonstrate the point.
     

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