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TiVo Premiere 4 officially announced

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by drebbe, Aug 16, 2012.

  1. nrc

    nrc Cracker Soul

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    They can and do. "Please note that removing the cover of the DVR for any reason voids the warranty."

    http://www.tivo.com/buytivo/dvrlimitedwarranty.html

    This is not a laptop or desktop computer where a consumer could reasonably expect to replace or upgrade parts without voiding the warranty. Yes, plenty of people can and do upgrade their hard drives. I have no idea of whether TiVo is strict about this clause or not, but they certainly could be.
     
  2. aaronkn

    aaronkn New Member

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    I would love to hear the repair requests that came in which prompted the addition of 8.T.! :eek:
     
  3. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    With recent Woot deal I got my Elite for $300. I would expect price to come down below $200 range on Amazon or equivalent not too long from now.
     
  4. jjd_87

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    Lucky you they didn't cancel your order. I'm seriously considering the 4 instead now.
     
  5. ajwees41

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    Blood
     
  6. bmgoodman

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    OK, so it's clear to me that major difference between the Premiere and the new Premiere 4 is in the number and type of tuners. But for the extra $100, what else changes? Can anyone summarize? Does it have a faster interface? Faster streaming? Is the Premiere end-of-line for software upgrades? Is it easier to replace the hard drive in one versus the other?

    I'm considering giving one as a wedding gift and I don't want to go with a Premiere and later think, "if only I had spent an extra $100...." (No, I'm not moving up to the top-of-the-line XL4!)
     
  7. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    All the Premieres have the same processor and memory. If anything the four tuner versions can be slighlty slower because of the extra overhead of constantly buffering four tuners instead of two.

    I'm still hoping they announce something for the IP STB soon. Now that they have two, four tuner, models available.

    I'm already down to three TiVos. I haven't used so few TiVos since the early 2000's.
     
  8. atmuscarella

    atmuscarella Well-Known Member

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    One of the biggest difference is the Premiere 4 only works with digital cable, while the Premiere works with analog/digital Cable and analog/digital OTA. If you are certain that the TiVo will be used for digital cable only then the extra 2 tuners certainly out ways the extra $100 cost in my mind.
     
  9. davezatz

    davezatz Funkadelic

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    Correct.
     
  10. CoxInPHX

    CoxInPHX COX Communications

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    That's too bad...

    I think a good move would have been to bump the Premiere XL to 2TB and keep the price at $250, that would eliminate the need for most to do their own HDD upgrade.
     
  11. jrtroo

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    Perhaps, but they want to have a product that competes against lower cost boxes. $250 as the cheapest unit would scare too many potential customers away who don't care about 2TB.
     
  12. CoxInPHX

    CoxInPHX COX Communications

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    I wasn't saying get rid of the Premiere 500GB, @ $150

    I was saying keep the Premiere XL w/ 2TB, THX, Glo-Remote and leave the price @ $250
     
  13. twhiting9275

    twhiting9275 TV Buff!

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    Most likely not though they might. Call and ask. I don't think you'll have a lot of luck there though, they want you to have multiple devices

    I was a bit surprised to see this with the 'Elite', but with the Premiere 4, not so much. I don't think we'll ever see an OTA tuner from Tivo again, and that's just dandy with me. Since everything is pretty much 'digital' anyways, why would they do this?

    I have a Premiere going off contract in September, looks like it's time for an upgrade ;) . Not only will I save some monthly dough, I'll have more available tuners. Since I don't max either box out much, I think 75 hours should be good ;)
     
  14. MeInDallas

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    Does anyone know if this has the same motherboard, power supply, and tuners as the regular Premiere? Or is it the same stuff the Elite/XL4 has inside? If its the same as the regular Premiere I might try one, but if its the same as the Elite/XL4 I'll pass on it since the Elite was such a nightmare for me. I just sold my Elite/XL4 on Ebay last week. Funny this comes out now after its gone. I hope there is some feedback on this one soon.
     
  15. twhiting9275

    twhiting9275 TV Buff!

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    I don't see how this could possibly have the same board, or CPU configuration. You'd need a good bit more juice to handle the additional 2 tuners
     
  16. MeInDallas

    MeInDallas Member

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    What a deal breaker for me, I got all excited for nothing :(
     
  17. L David Matheny

    L David Matheny Active Member

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    If they discontinue all models with OTA tuners, they are insane. I hope and trust that TiVo management is not that stupid.
     
  18. compnurd

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    As Stated many times, ALL of the Premieres have the same CPU, Motherboard and RAM. The Elite is the same as the regular premiere.

    At this point, there is nothing to suggest this is anything different

    The tuners are probably the same as the Elite, but it was noted those were different than the regular premiere
     
  19. MeInDallas

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    The regular Premiere does indeed have a different motherboard, power supply, and tuners from the Elite/XL4. All one has to do is get them side by side and look inside. See the pics below.
     

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  20. jfh3

    jfh3 New Member

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    Not sure where "OTA tuners are history" came from. The Premiere 4 looks like nothing more than an Elite with a smaller hard drive. Period. Not a statement by TiVo that all future DVRs are cable only.
     

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