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TiVo Petitions FCC to Insure Consumer Access to CableCARD

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by sbiller, Jul 16, 2013.

  1. atmuscarella

    atmuscarella Well-Known Member

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    Fixed sorry for the mix up.
     
  2. sbiller

    sbiller Active Member

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    I expect that a downloadable security successor would not be backward compatible with existing boxes. There would be a very long period where the cable operators would be required to support CableCARD. There is the possibility of some external box a la Tuning Adapter (kludge) as well for legacy boxes.

    What should have happened but didn’t was a downloadable software-only successor should have been introduced that would have been nationally portable across all cable operators. There was a push for this a few years back that never came to fruition. That would have been a simple change to replace the hardware CableCARD with a software alternative that retail devices could adopt. AllVid was way more complicated as is are the proposed IP standards that include provisions for two-way control of IP content that are mandated in 2014.
     
  3. lessd

    lessd Active Member

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    I never had any problem taking out Lifetime Service on any TiVo I got as I did not think that TiVo going out of business and the TiVo guide data stopping was much of a risk, but cable card going out of use, that would be a real problem, unless new TiVos had both a cable card slot and the software alternative built in, than one could upgrade to the new type TiVo and still sell the cable card only TiVo on E-Bay, if cable cards would still be supported for at least 5 or more years.
     
  4. shwru980r

    shwru980r Active Member

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    I thought a commodity based chip would be used to implement downloadable security. Can't the third party boxes use that same chip?
     
  5. sbiller

    sbiller Active Member

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    Sure. That's the Charter proposed solution. TiVo can make a unique box for n Markets where n = 1 to 10...

    If the cable monopoly is able to create unique box requirements in each market than TiVo's retail business is essentially dead.
     
  6. Bigg

    Bigg Active Member

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    No, it would just eliminate the CC and switch the whole thing over to software that Comcast could push through TiVo in real-time to the boxes. Although I'm sensing the TP's processor would buckle under the load...
     
  7. tivogurl

    tivogurl New Member

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    What fool would trust Comcast to write good code and not deliberately sabotage the TiVo?
     
  8. Bigg

    Bigg Active Member

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    They did it with XoD. That's outside of CableCard. Although you could argue it's because they make money off of it, and they were losing potential movie rentals on TiVos that the FCC forced them to support.
     
  9. mattack

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    Sorry, more nitpicking. I see nothing in there, or the stuff you quoted, that argues against "the ability to record TV programming". Unauthorized access != recording.
     

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