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TiVo O/S got a new feature - tuner allocation

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by igirl, Feb 11, 2013.

  1. igirl

    igirl Tivo and EyeTV User

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    Just for laughs I went back and checked to see how my Tivo Stream w/iPad does Live TV -

    I currently do not have the "Allow Live TV on Other Devices" setting on - it is OFF.
    Interesting - obviously a not quite "done" feature as I was able to watch Live TV on the iPad - regardless of this setting. Maybe it's already dynamically allocating a tuner then?
    [EDIT] DOH - no - the setting probably IS WORKING! Since it couldn't see the Live TV - it likely started a recording to make a recorded show instead!***

    The Stream actually starts recording the show when one selects Live TV*** ...presumably to allow for buffer to fill and feed the Stream? Strange when I first got the Stream I don't ever remember it starting a recording when Live TV was selected, but it's been a while since I played with that. We had always used our EyeTV system for watching Live TV on iPads anyway.

    I haven't tested what it would do if called into service while 4 shows are recording on a P4 - that rarely happens - and I wouldn't want to mess them up when it does. I could set up 4 fake recordings and test, but I'm short on time for that right now.

    In any event, it seems like the Tivo Mini is going to be quite similar to using a Stream then? Maybe the only difference is watching on iPad vs HDMI out to other viewing devices. It only makes sense of course that it needs to consume a tuner to do what it's supposed to do. It would get messy though if multiple Minis and Streams were on just one P4.

    ***I need to test further now to verify my theory on recording vs Live TV
     
  2. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    The Stream does not yet use this feature. The Stream uses sort of a hack where if you pick something from live Tv it simply starts recording the program and then starts streaming that, leaving behind a partial recording when it's done. It does not have a continuous live 30 minute buffer like the real TiVo, or presumably the Mini, has. Although I bet that they will eventually allow real live TV via the Stream. It's just that it was released before this option existed so that trick was the only way to make it work.
     
  3. shwru980r

    shwru980r Active Member

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    I think Tivo should have released a first generation mini that didn't have the ability to allocate and tuner and then a second generation mini that could allocate a tuner.
     
  4. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    They did, it was called a Preview. It had it's own built in tuner and required it's own CableCARD to tune live TV. It was never released at retail though.

    These devices are mainly aimed at the MSO market. That's why the Mini is currently available to MSOs but still not available to retail yet.
     
  5. shwru980r

    shwru980r Active Member

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    I was thinking of a mini no tuner allocation and no built in tuner.
     
  6. ShayL

    ShayL Member

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    You would think TiVo could have sold the Preview at retail. If the device is already built why not release it to another channel?
     
  7. bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    They may not have been able to get the numbers to work... Not enough savings over a base Premier to make the product viable in the retail market.
     
  8. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Probably that. The Mini should be cheaper and they can sell it on the fact that it does not require another CableCARD.
     

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