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TiVo Net Controller for PC - Windows 7/Vista

Discussion in 'VirginMedia TV with TiVo - UK' started by apwheeler, Nov 20, 2011.

  1. apwheeler

    apwheeler New Member

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    Hi,

    I have started a new thread for this as requested.

    Since the new update gives the ability for network remote control, I have started to develop a little application on Windows that will allow you to control your TiVo.

    The version is confirmed as working on Vista and works on Windows 7. Basically it allows you to control your TiVo from the application by clicking the appropriate buttons on the remote control.

    To the right is a list of channels, you can click on the channel and the TiVo will change to that channel. I have not added all channels, but if anyone wants to add more just populate the channellist.txt file.

    You can type on your the keyboard when entering Text searches such as Searching TV and the new YouTube app.

    Arrow Keys also control the Up, Down, Left, Right on the TiVO, and the Enter key sends OK.

    This is still in early development, and there is potential for new features etc, if anyone has any. Would appreciate your feedback.

    To work you will need your TiVo connected to your home network, and enable Network Remote Control on your TiVo.

    Latest version 0.02 can be found here:
    www.andypwheeler.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/VMTivoNetRemoteV0.02.zip

    If someone could test if it will load on XP I would appreciate it.

    Thanks,
    Andy
     
  2. VirginMediaPhil

    VirginMediaPhil New Member

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  3. apwheeler

    apwheeler New Member

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    Great... thanks for confirming.
     
  4. Zaichik

    Zaichik New Member

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    Hell on Earth
    Does it work remotely?
     
  5. apwheeler

    apwheeler New Member

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    I guess it could if you set up a rule on your router to redirect port 31339 to the TiVo IP Address... Wouldn't recommend it though.

    Why would you want to remote control your TiVo outside of your Home Network?
     
  6. Pine Cladding

    Pine Cladding Large member (Ooer!)

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    Annoy the other half/kids/lodger . . . ;-)

    Sent from my iPad 2 using Forum Runner
     
  7. TIVO_YORK99

    TIVO_YORK99 New Member

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    Yes - know what you mean.

    Used to have great fun on the series 1 changing channels and fast fowarding to make my wife think she was going mad.

    Personally I would setup a VPN and access it that way instead of forwarding the port as it would be a lot more secure.
     
  8. Brangdon

    Brangdon New Member

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    It depends on what the net interface and app are capable of. For example, perhaps it could be used to schedule recordings when away from home, without having to use the web interface.

    For me the notion of duplicating the hand-held remote-control on a PC isn't especially useful, because I can't see the TV from my computer desk. I have the Android app on my phone, too, but that's not a big improvement because of the small screen. (I think the main benefit is the improved keyboard.) To be useful, I'd want the app to provide a lot of self-contained UI that duplicated a lot of the existing basic functionality, and then added value on top of that.

    Given that, there are some interesting things that could be done with a bigger screen and richer UI metaphor (ie, mouse or touchscreen). Some examples:
    • Drag and drop editing of Wish List priorities.
    • Multiple selection and delete of recordings.
    • "Create a Series Link" with customised defaults. It could have different defaults for different channels, so it gave you padding on BBC but not ITV.
    • Reminders (if VM are slow to add them).
    • Extend 28-day rule: keep track of all episodes recorded forever, and delete any duplicated recordings that TiVo tries to schedule.
    • Queue an arbitrary list of programmes to be sent to SCART (and HDMI) overnight, for archiving to external media.
    • Improve how recordings are listed in the equivalent of "My Shows", eg let the user control what information is included.
    • Better filtering of data. For example, the app could fetch all of the Hiccups entries but only show ones that matched criteria, eg:
      • Only show programmes from channels in the Favourites list.
      • Only show recordings that failed due to collisions; hide programmes that didn't record because they are repeats.
      • Allow searching for a named programme and/or a specific time.
    • Backup and restore of Wish Lists and Series Links.
    • Sharing of Series Links with other people (eg, emailing them to friends).
    I don't know how much of this is possible but my impression is that the network interface is quite capable. Of course it would be a lot of work to do well, and I doubt it would be profitable, and I'm not really volunteering to do it myself.

    There is also VM/TiVo's stance to consider. They can, and should, bring out their own apps for Android and Windows and Mac, as well as iPad, which could marginalise any third party ones. They could also try to kill third party apps by various legal and technical means. Although I'd like to think they don't mind. Series 4/VM boxes are more closed and locked-down than the series 1 boxes were, but if TiVo have designed the network interface well, it should be safe to use with no risk of people using it to, eg, pirate high-quality protected video. If I was them I'd seriously consider open-sourcing their iPad app and actively encouraging third parties to make TiVo better.
     
  9. Faz

    Faz New Member

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    Nice one Andy!
    Works flawlessly! :)

    Plans for next release?? ;)

    Cheers!

    Faz
     
  10. brightonjohn

    brightonjohn New Member

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    This is a much appreciated application. I have already added some more channels to my list (especially the BBC and Classic FM Radio Stations) and also, cos it doesn't remember the network (ip) address for my TiVo I've made that the first item in my channel list in the form REM 192.168.1.107 - which of course may vary if other stuff is added and will be different for other users.
     
  11. apwheeler

    apwheeler New Member

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    I will fix the IP remembering bit at the weekend. Also someone over on DigitalSpy forums has very kindly completed the channellist.txt file so that all the channels are listed.

    You can get the replacement channellist.txt file from here:

    http://hotfile.com/dl/135732358/0dc768e/Channellist.txt.html
     
  12. VirginMediaPhil

    VirginMediaPhil New Member

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    Well I finally got round to connecting the TiVo to the network and this is great. I can wirelessly control my TiVo from my lap.

    This is much better than having to buy a new keyboard considering my current wired one doesn't even seem to work with it, possibly because it's an Apple keyboard.

    One thing I've noticed is when on the Home menu, the My Shows button loads My Shows for a second before redirecting me back to Home. Only problem I've seen.

    Thanks again.
     
  13. Faz

    Faz New Member

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    You can assign a static IP from Settings, Network Connection, Change Network Settings.
     
  14. apwheeler

    apwheeler New Member

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    Yeah... I cheated and made it send Home button twice... Still looking for the code to take you straight there.. The US TiVo code didn't seem to work.
     
  15. brightonjohn

    brightonjohn New Member

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    Just one small and un-important observation. While this lovely little app is sitting on the desktop and connected the peanut apps on the iPhone and iPad can't connect it would seem. - Just in case anybody is wondering why those should suddenly have broken.
     
  16. cwaring

    cwaring VM Tivo User

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    Okay. Stupid question time. I need to connect something like my old Netgear WPS606 to the Tivo and then add it to my home network first. Right?

    Of course, my network starts 192 whilst my Tivo's IP starts 169. It will work, yes?

    (Yes, networking is not my best subject :))
     
  17. OzSat

    OzSat Very Nice Moderator

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    There are two IP addresses displayed on the TiVo network screen - the bottom one is the local network.
     
  18. dawn_mcgowan

    dawn_mcgowan New Member

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    Hello all, I was intrigued to read about this funky app, and decided to try it following my Tivo update to 15.2, but I cannot get it to work :(
    can anyone help? it is saying it cannot connect to my tivo ip address. I am running Windows 7.
    I tried 2 different ip addresses that are listed in my tivo settings 'cable modem connection ip' and 'ethernet connection ip'. neither worked. am i doing something really silly?
    Thanks for your help.
    Dawn
     
  19. OzSat

    OzSat Very Nice Moderator

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    There is a menu option on TiVo setup where to have to allow 'Network Remote Control'.

    Even if it is on - switch it off - then on again.
     
  20. dawn_mcgowan

    dawn_mcgowan New Member

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    no it still doesn't want to know. if I go into my 'network diagnostics' screen it says 'failed' next to 'port configuration test'. do you think that could be the issue?
     

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