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Tivo mini + wifi bridge

Discussion in 'TiVo Mini' started by Exci, Mar 16, 2013.

  1. Feb 11, 2014 #21 of 129
    JoJetSki

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    I have the same setup, ASUS RT-AC68R router with my Romio Pro hard wired to it and a mini sitting behind the cisco/Linksys WUMC710. I also bought the extended antennas from Amazon to get better range out of my router. Tivo Mini is working flawlessly in streaming, skipping ahead and general connectivity. You would think they are connected together on the same switch the way there is no pixelization during fast forward etc. My signal strength is 56% and I am getting a bit rate of 585 Mbps. more than enough for the mini which is the only active device behind the bridge. As always your setup may vary depending on conditions, but this is probably one of the best options for a wifi-bridge/router setup.
     
  2. Feb 11, 2014 #22 of 129
    eboydog

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    One must understand that regardless of how fast of a wireless connectivity you can create, the largest obstacle to overcome is the physical limitations the Tivo has is fully utilizing that available bandwidth. The newer Roamio models are a big improvement but even that model cannot max out a 100 MB ethernet wired connection much less some of the faster wireless technologies.

    With using wireless gateway options too especially with wireless G, performance is impeded with other wireless G devices not including the gateway it's self meaning the more devices on your wireless slows things down. One option to overcome this is to setup separate wireless networks on your home network, one to handle typical wireless devices and the second to handle just the wireless gateway, of course this requires two separate wireless access points.
     
  3. Feb 11, 2014 #23 of 129
    aaronwt

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    The Plus and Pro can hit 180 mbps throughput. The Roamio basic tops out at 95mbps.
     
  4. Feb 11, 2014 #24 of 129
    lessd

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    I have a MoCA setup with readings on the MoCA of over 250 for RX and TX on all my boxes. With both Roamio Plus units in standby mode the fastest xfer rate I can get on a HD program is 98Mb/Sec, how are you getting 180Mb/sec ? I use the TiVo xfer speed in network diag to measure my xfer speed.
     
  5. Feb 12, 2014 #25 of 129
    aaronwt

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    Transfer to a PC with TiVo Desktop.
     
  6. Feb 12, 2014 #26 of 129
    lessd

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    OH! I don't do that, no need for me with all the storage I now have.
     
  7. Jun 5, 2014 #27 of 129
    mcluvin

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    A big thumbs up for the WUMC710. I got 2 of these super cheap from Tanga a couple weeks ago. The setup is a bit of a kludge, but update the firmware, set a static IP and done. My main router is an R7000. The WUMC710s work better than another R7000 in bridge mode. I'm amazed at how well this is working so far.
     
  8. Jul 10, 2014 #28 of 129
    Forcelite

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    Does anyone have any experience with using an AC adapter and compatible router?

    It would seem that if N is working ok, then AC would provide a pretty good overall experience.

    Thanks,
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  9. Jul 10, 2014 #29 of 129
    aaronwt

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    I would think it would work fine. I can use a Mini with a wireless bridge and get rock solid streaming whether I use 2.4Ghz or 5Ghz N. So AC should be fine too. Of course, like with wireless N, if the wireless network is not setup properly then there can be issues.
     
  10. Jul 10, 2014 #30 of 129
    Bob-Dobalina

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    For what its worth I was able to connect my tivo mini to my network using an old Airport express in Bridge Mode. My main wireless router is a Airport Extreme. It was pretty simple. I plugged my ethernet cable from my mini to my express and it immediately connected to my network. My tivo roamio is connected to the network via hardwired ethernet.

    I also have a tivo premiere hooked up to another airport extreme in bridge mode.

    Only issues I have is when i am streaming a show from my tivo premiere to my mini. Usually occurs when I am fast forwarding to far into a show and it takes a moment for it to buffer.
     
  11. Jul 10, 2014 #31 of 129
    A2JetGuy

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    I'm having great success with this set up!

    My DSL modem is Cat5 hard wired to my Apple TimeCapsule/WiFi.
    To that Apple TimeCapsule/WiFi I have my Roamio and one Premiere Cat5 hard wired.

    In another part of the house I have an AirPort Extreme/WiFi that wirelessly extends my network from my TimeCapsule. To that I have my TiVo Mini Cat5 hard wired.

    In yet another part of the house I have another AirPort Extreme/WiFi, also wirelessly extending my network from my TimeCapsule. To that I have another TiVo Premiere Cat5 hard wired.

    Everything streams, transfers, FF, Rew without hesitation.
    Added bonus: seamless WiFi coverage in and around my home!
     
  12. Jul 10, 2014 #32 of 129
    2trill4925

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    Another vote for the Airport Express, because had it not been for that device the Mini would've been returned.
     
  13. Jan 1, 2015 #33 of 129
    bigshow

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    Like the person who made a previous post, I use Apple's Airport Extreme as my router and WiFi provider, and Airport Express to extend my "wired" network. The Mini is connected to a wired port on the Extreme, and my Roamio (OTA) is connected to the wired port on the Express, so in reality there is a wireless connection between the two. I get good streaming for a while, but after a few minutes live TV gets "jumpy" (pauses more and more), and playing shows prerecorded on the Roamio eventually fails with the "network too slow" error from my Mini.

    1. Is there anything I can do to "tune" my network to improve it? Apple's products, of course, are well-known for not letting you get down to the nitty gritty of configuration.

    2. Why is it that I never had this problem when I had two Premieres? I could play prerecorded shows from either box to the other one over the exact same connection without a problem.

    Thanks!
     
  14. Jan 2, 2015 #34 of 129
    Marty1781

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    Not sure why you are having issues with the Roamio-Mini combo and not the Premiers. Below are a couple of things you can try which do not necessarily fall under the category of tuning your network but may solve your issue. The options are presented in order from the least to the most costly so I would therefore try them in the order that they are listed below. The 4th option, however, will be your best bet and result in the most reliable connection/streaming experience.

    1) If you haven't done so already, try rebooting the Extreme, Express, Roamio, and Mini

    2) If you can, try swapping the locations of the Roamio and Mini. The point of this is so that the Roamio will be connected to the Extreme and the Mini to the Express. With your current connection, you are uploading/sending the Roamio's stream through the Express and it's wireless-N connection, which is the bottleneck. It shouldn't make a difference, but it may be more efficient for the network to instead have the Roamio located at the Extreme's location. That way, the more powerful Extreme will be primarily sending Roamio data downstream to the less powerful Express (instead of the reverse like you currently have it setup). The bottleneck of the wireless-N connection will still exist but this may be a more efficient way to optimize the connection. In your previous setup, if you were primarily streaming video from the Premiere located at the Extreme to the Premiere located at the Express and not having issues, that may also help explain why you weren't having issues then but are having them now.

    3) Does your version of the Extreme support wireless AC? If yes, try using a wireless bridge that also supports the faster wireless AC standard to connect the Roamio to your network (I believe the current version of the Express only supports the slower wireless-N/G/B/A standards). Here is one example ($35):
    http://www.amazon.com/Linksys-Wireless-AC-Universal-Connector-WUMC710/dp/B0090DX8O8

    4) Assuming you have coax connections near/available at both the Roamio and the Mini (you were previously using two connected Premieres, so yes, right?), you can try using a pair of Moca adapters to create a wired connection between the two ($90): https://www.tivo.com/shop/detail/moca-2
    Under this scenario, you would use one Moca adapter to create the Moca network by connecting to both a coax wall outlet and your Extreme (Mini remains connected to the Extreme over ethernet). The other Moca adapter would be connected to a coax wall outlet near the Roamio and then ethernet from that to the Roamio.
    The ideal scenario, however, would be to swap the locations of the Roamio and Mini so that you would only need one Moca adapter ($50): https://www.tivo.com/shop/detail/moca
    The single adapter would create the Moca network at the Extreme's location (connect wall coax to Moca adapter's coax input and ethernet from adapter to Extreme). Roamio connects via ethernet to the Extreme and also to the coax output on the Moca adapter. The Mini would then just connect directly to a wall coax outlet in the other location since the Mini has a builtin Moca adapter.

    5) If your Extreme supports wireless AC, you can also try replacing the Express with the following ($90):
    http://www.amazon.com/Linksys-AC1200-Wi-Fi-Extender-RE6500-FFP/dp/B00KX8OL1S
     
  15. Jan 5, 2015 #35 of 129
    Bigg

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    People FF and RW on TiVo? I rarely ever FF and RW, I can 6-second and 30-second skip for most uses, i.e. skipping commercials...
     
  16. Jan 8, 2015 #36 of 129
    aaronwt

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    For over ten years I used the skip. Then when the Roamio came out in 2013 with the 30 second scan, I didn't think I would like it. But after awhile I found I liked it better. Now I can't stand using the skip function. I only use the scan function. I like to see what it is scanning over and if I see something I want to watch I can stop it.
     
  17. Jan 8, 2015 #37 of 129
    DeltaOne

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    Me too. Use the middle (2) speed. Speed #1 is too slow, speed #3 a little too fast.

    Using speed #2 I wait until I see a few frames of the show after the commercial and the bounce-back almost always lands at just the right spot.
     
  18. Jan 8, 2015 #38 of 129
    Bigg

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    Do the Premieres do scan? I think I've seen it before on either my XL4 or one of my Mini's, but I programmed in 30 second skip as soon as I got them.
     
  19. Jan 8, 2015 #39 of 129
    aaronwt

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    I might have mixed up the Roamio with the XL4/Elite.
     
  20. Jan 9, 2015 #40 of 129
    Bigg

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    It may be a Roamio/Mini thing, in which case the Mini would probably do it when connected to an XL4? Or all of them do it...
     

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