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TiVo Mini Unboxing

Discussion in 'TiVo Mini' started by cmonroe, Mar 8, 2013.

  1. Mar 8, 2013 #21 of 226

    cmonroe Member

    Sep 1, 2007
    @Dan203: Under account & system info, I see what I think might be a new field:

    Remote Address: 0(IR), (RF)

    Do you think this implies bluetooth might be built in?

    @teklock: SKU is 8505056, Model is TCDA92000

    I'm happy to crack the box open if you guys want to see a component breakdown.

    I'm waiting on an update to finish before I can tell if it supports Amazon/Netflix/Pandora/etc.
  2. Mar 8, 2013 #22 of 226

    jano18 New Member

    Oct 15, 2012
    That's possible, but it does appear to work with a Slide based on the images from CES. I guess we will find out soon. I also hope that it will also work via IP control for my Roomie app.
  3. Mar 8, 2013 #23 of 226

    jano18 New Member

    Oct 15, 2012
    That would be cool if you could post the sku or an image of your receipt. I'd like to try to go get one tomorrow, as I'm sure many others here would as well.
  4. Mar 8, 2013 #24 of 226

    teklock New Member

    Sep 11, 2012
    Thanks for the sku..

    Looks like none of the stores in the DFW area have any. She said they have some coming from the warehouse on Tuesday though.
  5. Mar 8, 2013 #25 of 226

    davezatz Funkadelic

    Apr 18, 2002
    Yes, SKU - PLEASE! And thanks for the permission to run the photo.

    Update: I see it above, thanks. Browsing the forum via mobile browser isn't ideal. :)
  6. Mar 8, 2013 #26 of 226

    HarperVision TiVo's Italian Cuz!

    May 14, 2007
    So does this mean it's not a "Unicorn" anymore? :D
  7. Mar 8, 2013 #27 of 226

    BigJimOutlaw Well-Known Member

    Mar 21, 2004
    Perhaps it has reached Bigfoot status. Sightings are alleged and photographs supposedly taken. :D
  8. Mar 8, 2013 #28 of 226

    jfalkingham Member

    Jul 23, 2002
    New Hampshire
    Good find cmonroe!

    Too bad it does not have Netflix. I was hoping to use exclusively to access Netflix and movies stored on main TiVo. I'll keep using the premiere instead as the big mini :)
  9. Mar 8, 2013 #29 of 226

    carroca New Member

    Jun 6, 2005
    TiVo bundle deals end on Monday. @teklock says Best Buy said shipment is coming from warehouse on Tuesday. Maybe we'll get an announcement on Tuesday or Wednesday next week. Hopefully. I've been waiting forever for these to be released to buy an XL4 for myself and one for my parents along with at least one Mini for each house. Come on TiVo, don't you want my money?
  10. Mar 8, 2013 #30 of 226

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

    Apr 17, 2000
    All signs point to a release on Tuesday. I'd be pretty surprised if it wasn't available by then.
  11. Mar 8, 2013 #31 of 226

    cmonroe Member

    Sep 1, 2007
    I asssure you, no unicorns here :) I was just as skeptical this morning. Oddly I'm in a semi-small area rather than a major metropolitan area... idea idea why the store here had them. Anyway, on to the good stuff...

    The box shipped with SW version: 20.2.2-01-6-A92
    After a while it upgraded to:

    e.g. 20.2.2 vs My Q4 is also running

    I attached a USB key to the back and it popped up with a message stating "This TiVo Box does not support attaching a device to add recording space. (E02)" so that's a no-go on playing videos from USB. Like the comments above, it's likely for an IR extender. The device has mounting holes on the bottom so it could be mounted flush to a wall or some other surface.

    Season pass manager behaves as if you were sitting in front of the Q4/box the Mini is bound to which is an amazing feature in my mind. I've always hated managing season passes on multiple TiVos.

    My old 2-tuner TiVo shows up in the now playing list but I can not see any content on it. Maybe this is a bug or maybe this is by design.

    Menu options consist of:

    Find TV, Movies & Videos
    • Search
    • Browse TV & Movies
    • Hulu Plus
    • YouTube
    • AOL On
    • Web Video Launchpad

    So no Netflix is confirmed (at least for now). Search and Browse work just like the regular Premiere interface.

    Music & Photos

    • Spotify
    • Pandora
    • Rhapsody Music Service
    • Live365
    • Podcaster
    • Photos & Slideshows

    Apps contains most of the usual stuff. I don't really use this section so don't know what may be missing. I can look for something specific if requested.

    Under "Remote & Device Settings" you can choose "Connected TiVo DVR". I have a Q4 and 2-tuner premiere in my network only the Q4 can be selected. So even though I performed initial setup with a Q4 it doesn't look like I can use a tuner from the 2-tuner model for the Mini (yet anyway).

    Network based remote controls are still supported. Likewise the TiVo iPhone app works just fine with the Mini.

    There is still a setting to disable the front LEDs, however the front LED is very dim and much more bedroom friendly (pic attached).

    I am using Moca for network connectivity but am a bit disappointed; unlike the Premiere Q4, the Mini won't act as a Moca gateway. I have one other wired Ethernet device in the room and was hoping to connect it to the Mini and bridge it onto the Moca network but it's simply not possible.

    On the plus side, the user interface experience is MUCH faster. Speed wise it's what the premiere should have been from day 1. On the other hand I would say channel surfing is a thing of the past; it takes a good 2-3 seconds to start the stream. I put a video up here.

    Lastly, I'm sure many of you noticed from the pictures that the component and composite A/V outputs requires a special cable. My old TV doesn't support audio over HDMI so I had to use a headphone to RCA jack cable to connect auto via the A/V output.

    Overall impression is that the Mini is a great extension of the Q4. Rather than a Premiere, cable card, Ethernet switch, and Moca adapter in this space I now simply have a Mini which is great. No more managing multiple season passes or remembering where a certain show recorded is the way things should be. The only two things that disappoint so far are:

    1.) No Netflix
    2.) Moca doesn't bridge to Ethernet

    I suspect both of these (well at least Netflix) will be fixed in future software releases.

    Attached Files:

  12. Mar 8, 2013 #32 of 226

    MeInDallas Member

    Jul 31, 2011
    Dallas, Texas
    This shows on all Tivo's. When you program a remote to be specific to a Tivo it will show a number there. Like if you have 2 Tivo's in the same room, you program a remote for each Tivo (2 remotes). Each Tivo will have a different number assigned to it.
  13. Mar 8, 2013 #33 of 226

    cmonroe Member

    Sep 1, 2007
    Thanks for the info. I've never noticed it before so I thought I'd check.
  14. Mar 8, 2013 #34 of 226

    CoxInPHX COX Communications

    Jan 14, 2011
    Phoenix, AZ
    You reference your "Q4" is this a Cable Co supplied TiVo Q or a retail Premiere 4 or Elite/XL4?

    I ask this question in regards to no Netflix.
  15. Mar 8, 2013 #35 of 226

    moyekj Well-Known Member

    Jan 23, 2006
    So from my understanding you're saying that Season Pass manager and ToDo list are available from the Mini (and the corresponding TiVo-1 and Tivo-2 shortcuts work as well)? That conflicts with what the CNET review was implying but it's great news if that is indeed the case.

    The fact that UI is MUCH faster is also great news and the main reason I'm interested in the Mini as a front end for my Elite.
  16. Mar 8, 2013 #36 of 226

    cmonroe Member

    Sep 1, 2007
    Regarding Q4, my Premiere 4 shows up as a Q4 from the Mini interface. This was a retail purchased 4-tuner premiere.

    As for Season pass manager and to-do list yes, they work from the Mini just like they do from the main premiere.

    As for TiVo-1 and TiVo-2 shortcuts they show up in the now playing list, but I can't access shows on my second TiVo, only those on the TiVo the Mini is linked to. Maybe this is a bug TiVo help up release for?
  17. Mar 8, 2013 #37 of 226

    Bigg Cord Cutter

    Oct 30, 2003
    I think we're seeing the beginning of a new TiVo system emerging, and the Mini is only a small part of it, although at this point, I don't see the Slide remote making any sense given that you can type through the iPhone app, and then use the regular Peanut on the couch.
  18. Mar 8, 2013 #38 of 226

    moyekj Well-Known Member

    Jan 23, 2006
    Excellent! Very happy to hear that.

    Not sure I follow. Pressing Tivo then 1 is just a shortcut to get to SP Manager and likewise pressing TiVo then 2 is a shortcut to get to ToDo list. I was just wondering if those work like they do for normal TiVo units?

    I would expect the SP manager and ToDo list to only control the host unit that the Mini is tied to - that makes sense. It would be nice if you could control any series 4 unit, but the regular series 4 units can't do that to each other right now so I wouldn't expect the Mini to either.
  19. Mar 8, 2013 #39 of 226

    CoxInPHX COX Communications

    Jan 14, 2011
    Phoenix, AZ
    I wonder if this indicates the current Mini SW is set-up for MSO partners only, for the time being?
  20. Mar 9, 2013 #40 of 226

    dhoward Member

    Mar 15, 2002
    Based on the video it looks like it takes closer to 4-5 seconds for the stream to start after changing channels. That is what my slingbox used to do and I hated it. I thought this might be faster. That is a severe handicap for channel surfing.

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