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Tivo Mini & Slingbox... can it work?

Discussion in 'TiVo Mini' started by tbielowicz, Mar 23, 2013.

  1. tivoboy

    tivoboy Member

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    Yes, I'm still having the issue with HDMI only. I can't stream anything outside the LAN to WAN with just HDMI connected. Even when the SB 500 and mini are on and connected to the TV and the TV is on (I'm assuming it is doing some sort of handshake) I get the pop-up about HDMI not supported, both at the remote slingplayer app and on the TV..

    Why even have the HDMI connection then?
     
  2. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    That was the reason I never even considered the Slingbox 500. In everything I read, they mentioned there could be an issue with HDMI because of the protection.
     
  3. SrLANGuy

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    I just upgraded from the Slingbox Pro HD to the newer Slingbox 350. I avoided the Slingbox 500 because the HDMI is useless in many cases, so why even bother.

    I purchased the A/V Breakout Cable Kit when I purchased my TiVo Mini just so I could hookup my Slingbox. So I have HDMI from the Mini to my TV and I have Component Video + Audio from the Mini to my Slingbox. It works great!

    NOTE: TiVo software 20.4.1 introduced a bug which could cause the Component Video to go out. This has been fixed with the Summer Update (20.4.2) which started rolling out today. Everyone should have the newer software very soon.
     
  4. tivoboy

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    So, what is the AV breakout cable, is it just the mini plug to component, or is there a red/white composite as well? Must be I guess..

    Also, without HDMI from the slingbox to the TV directly, can one still do things like dish and blockbuster? I thought there were some functions on the slingbox that required the HDMI HDCP handshake with the TV to work?
     
  5. Diana Collins

    Diana Collins Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    There are two sets of wires in the breakout kit...one is component video (RGB) and the other is composite video and analog audio (red/white/yellow). You need both.

    BTW, the WD Live breakout cables are compatible with the Mini and cost about half as much on eBay. They are shorter, but for Slingbox use I consider that a benefit. We have two Slingbox Pros, each connected to Minis, one with Tivo cables and one with WD cables...both work perfectly.

    RGB component cable for $4 on eBay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-WD...187?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a80237f63
    Composite/Audio cable for $4 on eBay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-WD-...053?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item56666abe6d

    Total $12 (including shipping - less if the seller will ship both together)

    Breakout kit on Tivo.com: https://www.tivo.com/shop/detail/av-cable

    Total: $25.71 (including tax and shipping)
     
  6. aaronwt

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    You need two breakout cables for the Mini if you plan to use component out. One breakout cable is for component RGB. The second breakout cables has composite and L/R audio. So you use L/R audio and component to the SlingBox.

    And yes it is just a mini plug to the regular RCA connectors.

    Here is a link to the Breakout cable on the TiVo web store

    https://www.tivo.com/shop/detail/av-cable

    I bought a couple of sets of these last year to use with my Minis.
     
  7. ellinj

    ellinj Seems Very Friendly TCF Club

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  8. tivoboy

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    thanks, yes I found the WD cables for about 10$ shipped combined on ebay. Figure it's worth a try.

    I might prefer to do the HDMI splitter route though, since that apparently would allow the HDMI to work fine AND not require all these extra cables? Can anyone comment on signal degradation on the HDMI splitters?
     
  9. Diana Collins

    Diana Collins Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    I have not found any signal quality issues with HDMI splitters, but make sure you get one that does HDCP on its own, unless you are sure that the TV will do HDCP acknowledgement when turned off (some do, but most don't). Otherwise, you won't be able to stream any copy protected content if the TV is off.
     
  10. aaronwt

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    The picture from an active HDMI splitter will be identical to the output of the device. There is no difference.
     
  11. kalexan9

    kalexan9 New Member

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    Sorry to resurrect this thread, but I am having trouble using my Tivo Mini with a Slingbox Pro-HD. I had some breakout cables lying around so I used the "AV Out" and "Component Out" to "Component In" and "Audio In" on back of the Slingbox Pro-HD. I then went out from the Slingbox Pro with component and audio, to the corresponding inputs on the TV, but when I go thru Slingbox setup, I get no audio or video. What am I doing wrong? The breakout cables I am using should work, right? Or should I buy some of the breakout cables listed in this thread. BTW, when I moved the Slingbox Pro to my Roamio Plus and used component OUT from the Roamio to the component IN on back of the Slingbox Pro, I got a picture in the Sling web setup? I could really use some help. Thanks.
     
  12. ellinj

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    have you tried hooking your breakout cables to the tv to see if it works? There is no standard for break out cables so the ones you have may or may not work.
     
  13. HarperVision

    HarperVision TiVo's Italian Cuz!

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    Just try swapping each of the RCA connectors of the breakout cables around until you find the one that has the right video signal for each corresponding jack. Each TRS (Tip/Ring/Sleeve) to RCA breakout has a different pin out configuration and the one you're using must not match the one TiVo designed the mini for. For example the red may be actually the blue video channel, green may be red, etc. Do the same for the composite AV breakout to get the proper audio channels as well. If you hear a loud buzzing with those, then that is the composite video being run into an audio jack.
     
  14. kalexan9

    kalexan9 New Member

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    Thanks guys. I will play around with the cables.
     
  15. BlondAngel

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    There is a new mini that is RF-based. Can the slingbox work with that?

    Or it works only with the older mini that is IR-based?
     
  16. HarperVision

    HarperVision TiVo's Italian Cuz!

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    Slingbox works with anything that has video outputs like composite, S-Video (some models), component and HDMI (some models). It works best with ones that it has IR code base for it so you can control it remotely. If you're asking if the IR will work while RF is working then the answer is yes.
     

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