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TiVo Mini Review Roundup

Discussion in 'TiVo Mini' started by Peter Redmer, Mar 12, 2013.

  1. sbiller

    sbiller Active Member

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    Check out the latest 1 star review on the Mini ->

    http://www.amazon.com/TiVo-TCDA92000-Mini/dp/B00BUCLVZU/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

    $5.99 per month? For what!???, April 26, 2013

    This review is from: TiVo TCDA92000 TiVo Mini (Electronics)
    We're a 1 Tivo household, mainly because we've never been able to justify the cost of a second Tivo, since 95% of our Tivo viewing is on 1 TV. For so long, though, I've wished that we could watch recordings from the one Tivo on the other televisions in the home, and when Tivo announced plans for the Tivo Mini, I was ecstatic!

    But then Tivo announced the ridiculous. $5.99 per month if you want the privilege of transferring records from one DVR, containing recordings that you ALREADY PAID A FEE TO RECORD. It's complete and utter nonsense. Tivo's pitch: "It's a great value, because it's cheaper than paying for 2 Tivos." While that may be true, if one were paying for a second or third Tivo, just so they could transfer recordings from one Tivo to the other, then they were getting ripped off to begin with. So basically, Tivo thinks you should be happy with paying $5.99 per month because you'll be getting ripped off less than you were before.

    Their other excuse..."Well, it's not like we're the only ones doing this. Our competitors also charge a monthly fee for their media extenders." Again, it's a ridiculous comparison, because WITH THE COMPETITION, YOU'RE NOT SUBSCRIBING TO SOME MADE UP SERVICE. YOU'RE LEASING THE EQUIPMENT! If I pay a monthly fee for the Tivo Mini, and then all of a sudden the hardware dies, are they going to swap me equipment? I didn't think so.

    The Tivo Mini cannot operate on its own. All it does is talk to other Tivos that you're ALREADY PAYING A FEE TO OPERATE. Any additional functionality beyond that are things we get for free with a Roku box.

    I hate to be "that guy" that writes a review for a product they don't own, but I feel compelled to in this instance. Anyone willing to pay a monthly fee for this is either 1) a fool, or 2)aware that it's borderline theft but want it badly enough that they're willing to pay it anyway.

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    Interesting to note that Amazon has been stocking/selling the Mini for a while now.

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    I'm looking forward to seeing more members of TCF, in addition to Jason and myself, posting their actual reviews of the Mini.
     
  2. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

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    This kind of reaction is what Tivo has to deal with everyday. You see it in a lot of AVS threads too, and even though this 'review' of something he didn't buy was more of a rant, the sentiment is not uncommon.
     
  3. mr_smits

    mr_smits New Member

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    What's interesting is how people fail to compare Tivo's offering to what the cable company offers. At least with Tivo, you have the option to buy 'lifetime' and equipment. With the cable company, you pay to lease inferior equipment...forever.
     
  4. lessd

    lessd Active Member

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    That why it's hard to compare, because with cable you rent the package so you get free in home service and equipment updates/replacements. TiVo has no way to offer that, for a TiVo customer if you want the newest stuff you must put the up the cost of Lifetime Service and be willing to sell the old TiVos on E-Bay, the longer you delay selling the lower the price is for the older TiVos, a Series 2 with Lifetime is now less that $100, when I upgraded to the TP I got about $350 for my Series 3s, when I upgraded to the TP-4 I got about $550 for my TPs (with 1Tb drives), it still cost me money each time and I had to go through the effort of selling and shipping the old TiVos, something one would not have to do with a MSOs equipment for a upgrade.
    For me it is well worth the trouble, but for others it is not, no pat answer to the question of this thread, just peoples options on how they look at it and how much (and what programs) TV they (and their family) watch.
     
  5. sbiller

    sbiller Active Member

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    Glad to see the number of Amazon TiVo Mini reviews up to 19... looks like the Signal-to-Noise ratio has been improved and the overall view of the current Mini is 4-stars.
     
  6. jmpage2

    jmpage2 New Member

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    So less than stellar reviews of the Mini are "noise" and gushing reviews are "signal"? Classy. I've had lots of problems with my Minis. It is an underwhelming value proposition at this time.
     
  7. sbiller

    sbiller Active Member

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    No. I don't have a problem with your current 3-star review. I had a problem with the 1-star review complaining about the subscription fee. My Mini's have been pretty stable although I'm looking forward to DTA and hopefully configurable time-outs.
     
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    sbiller

    sbiller Active Member

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    Almost 4 weeks and another 10 reviews. FWIW, the last 10 reviews were:

    1 Star - (1)
    2 Star - (0)
    3 Star - (2)
    4 Star - (2)
    5 Star - (5)
     
  9. sbiller

    sbiller Active Member

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    Another 4 weeks, another 15 reviews of the TiVo Mini. Here is the tally from the most recent 15 Amazon reviews.

    1 Star - (0)
    2 Star - (0)
    3 Star - (0)
    4 Star - (6)
    5 Star - (9)
     
  10. jmpage2

    jmpage2 New Member

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    And my 3 star review is still the most well-rated review. :)
     
  11. sbiller

    sbiller Active Member

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    I noticed that Jason. I'm jealous! ;)

    I'm looking forward to you moving it up to at least 4 stars when they release DTA.
     
  12. jmpage2

    jmpage2 New Member

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    They will need DTA as well as Netflix on the Mini, for its premium price, in order for me to give it 4 stars.
     
  13. sbiller

    sbiller Active Member

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    I expect (and hope) that you might see both! :up:
     
  14. jmpage2

    jmpage2 New Member

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    Let's hope so, tired of being a beta tester for these guys :)

    They will need to improve stability too. Needing to re-boot the thing periodically is unacceptable to me.
     
  15. sbiller

    sbiller Active Member

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    I suspect that it will get more stable over time with newer software builds. I would reclassify you from public beta tester to "early adopter"! :)
     
  16. wmhjr

    wmhjr Well-Known Member

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    Given that DTA is being released for Series 5 but not Premiere, and no real word on DTA for anyone else, I would at this point bet that we will never see DTA for Premieres. I'd classify this in the same fashion as for fixing Amazon Prime, correcting long standing quality issues with Amazon instant download, etc. Tivo claimed to be "working on those" 2 yrs ago - and when you have issues and call, they still say they're "working on it".
     
  17. jmpage2

    jmpage2 New Member

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    They've said it's coming for Premieres so I would hold off on the witch hunt for a while yet.

    Clearly though the Mini was designed for use with the Roamio first and foremost.
     
  18. wmhjr

    wmhjr Well-Known Member

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    They've said it was coming for Premieres since the mini was released.

    They also said they were working on Amazon prime streaming......

    I would hardly consider it a witch hunt. It's just a reflection of how Tivo has made decisions in the past. Very few "new" features end up cascading into older models. I totally understand this and cannot disagree with that approach - so long as they also make good on what they "insinuate" (using that word since Tivo so rarely actually "promises" anything. To me, a "promise" is more a scheduled release with anticipated GA.
     
  19. jrtroo

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    They never said any such thing on Amazon prime. It is not their app to write, it was never promised to us Premiere users.
     
  20. tivoboy

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    They also said it was coming for the mini's "in the fall", but man if they back out of that I'm going to be a tad bit annoyed since I bought the LT on it thinking it was really worth it as a permanent solution going forward. I can live with 4T in the P4XL, but don't like losing one always to a mini in the den just to have a mini in the den.
     

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