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TiVo Mini Lost Connection v87

Discussion in 'TiVo Mini' started by benheath, Dec 8, 2013.

  1. Loach

    Loach New Member

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    This has been my experience as well. It's annoying, but usually just takes a few seconds to exit back to Tivo central, then replay the recording from the place it booted me out.

    However, last night I got the V87 error while watching the late news while it was still recording. Recording ended at 10:35 and V87 error appeared as usual. I was through about 2/3 of the show. Did my normal routine of going back to Tivo central and lo and behold - there was no option to restart the recording from where I left off. It apparently lost its place and the only option was to play from beginning. This has never happened to me before and I hope it isn't another new "feature".
     
  2. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    In my experience, after the V87 problem caused by watching a still recorded program, sometimes when trying to resume the pause point is lost, so I don't think that's a new problem either.
     
  3. blacknoi

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    I'll say when I get the V87 error its now maybe a 66% chance it'll remember where I was watching and 33% makes me start from the beginning.

    Early on V87's would always remember where I was.

    I get maybe 2 to 3 V87's a week using my roamio basic to stream off my roamio pro downstairs (all cat5e cable). Using the same roamio basic to transfer a program (versus streaming it) remains to be a flawless experience oddly enough.
     
  4. hytekjosh

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    Happened to me last night as well. Was watching a show that was recording on the host and then had ended while I was still watching on the Mini. I had to fast forward to pickup where I left off. If I tried watched the same part of the show where the error first appeared, it would v87 again. I had to fast forward past the point of where I left off to dodge the error.
     
  5. htruong74

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    I usually get 2 to 3 v87 in a day. I'm hard wired to a wireless router and my roamio basic is hard wired to the same wireless router also.. I tried to officially file a bug report but got the standard useless we don't support home switches canned response. and it used to be that the mini remember last playback location, now it starts at beginning.


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  6. Loach

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    It's losing its place every time for me now. Almost makes my bedroom Mini useless, as it is primarily used to watch the late news on a slightly time-shifted basis. It never lost its place for me a single time before the 20.4.1 update.
     
  7. bunjicat

    bunjicat New Member

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    Uggh. This is starting to happen to me. Lost connection and have to start the recorded program from the beginning. Thought it was a fluke but its happening more frequently on all the mini's. It has happened while a show was recording and while watching a previously recorded show. Did not occur prior to the update.
     
  8. htruong74

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    I would call in and attempt to report it. the more problem report they get the more priority this new bug gets resolve. I know this didn't happen before, and it's quite frustrating to get a v87, but added frustration to fast forward to last playback location is more annoying. and if they won't take your report, you can rate their level of customer service when you get the feedback email.
     
  9. nov1942

    nov1942 New Member

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    I am getting a V82 error when mini loses connection. Any clue what this is and why it is?
     
  10. HTH

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    This has been my experience as well. It reliably happens ONLY if I start watching a RECORDING IN PROGRESS, and only triggered AFTER that recording completes. It just happened with the Summer update. 52 minutes from the end of Defiance, 2 minutes into the following hour. Wired vs. wireless networking does not change the result.

    It has been excruciatingly common when watching Comedy Central programs The Daily Show with Jon Stewart, The Colbert Report, and At Midnight when each is started while in progress. It is not limited to doing back-to-back recordings, just in-recording-progress playback: it still triggers for At Midnight when I record nothing after it.

    This is not to say this is the only condition where a V87 error can occur. It is, however, a very RELIABLE way to make it occur, which should make test-case construction easier for TiVo, making debugging more efficient.

    As stated, it has been reliably reproduced with shows as short as 31 minutes. I have yet to definitively test shows of shorter duration. Sometimes it feels like there's a 10 minute window of opportunity for the error, but that isn't a scientific observation.

    The best way to avoid the bug is to not watch programs through a TiVo Mini or similar circumstance until they have finished recording. Pick something else, wait, or be prepared for the error (it's not fatal, just annoying). As such, I won't be watching Dominion tonight during its timeslot.

    This is more of a problem for shows which include live events like live-tweeting where participation requires playback of live-recording content.
     
  11. hytekjosh

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    I haven't had the error since I added a POE filter in front of my tuning adapter. I'm wondering if that fixed it or maybe I just haven't been watching shows in progress.
     
  12. yamsta

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  13. djlott

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    I posted this in some of the other forums where users were having v87 connection issues with Bolt/Roamio to Mini. I hope it helps someone else save hours of troubleshooting:

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    Add me to the list of folks (chumps maybe?) that didn't think (or know) that I needed a MoCA PoE filter. After spending hours of troubleshooting, and then about $7.00 on Amazon for a MoCA filter, my TiVo Mini issues disappeared. I have a 1TB TiVo BOLT and a v2 Mini. The first night I set up the Mini I watched an entire hockey game in high def with no issue. After that, it never worked again. Weather? Network gods? I can't explain it but what I can say is that the MoCA filter worked in seconds.

    For background, I am very proficient at home AV, computer networking, WiFi, etc. In addition, before I had Bolt/Mini, I had DirecTV with whole home DVR MoCA service working perfectly at all the same locations without a MoCA PoE filter. But when I moved to TiVo Bolt/Mini, nothing worked. Static IP addresses, removing splitters, simplifying the config, MoCA channels, etc. $7.00 MoCA filter worked immediately. What can I say? Get one.

    Issues I had: v87 errors on Mini - would connect for maybe 5 seconds and then disconnect with V87 error. Could establish a network connection and view my recorded shows but could not stream.
     

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