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TiVo Mini Lost Connection v87

Discussion in 'TiVo Mini' started by benheath, Dec 8, 2013.

  1. Dec 8, 2013 #1 of 33
    benheath

    benheath New Member

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    I get intermittent Lost Connection errors between a brand new TiVo Mini and a brand new TiVo Roamio connected directly to an Airport Extreme. This happens for all recordings (active or complete) even live TV.

    TiVo Support ran me through things like unplug the Mini, Roamio. Connect to TiVo. Restart router. Force a new network connect. Nothing worked.
     
  2. Dec 8, 2013 #2 of 33
    benheath

    benheath New Member

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    Giving the Mini and Roamio a static IP address may have fixed it.

    The thought being that Zero Config DNS loses the Roamio from time to time causing the Mini to lose the connection. With a static IP the the address is always the same and doesn't have to be resolved. Just a thought.
     
  3. siratfus

    siratfus New Member

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    Did this really solve your issue? Can you explain a little how to set static ip? How do we know what numbers are okay to use? I've never really bothered to learn this all these years because I always let the gadget automatic configure the addresses.
     
  4. siratfus

    siratfus New Member

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    I went through the network set-up and choose set my own IP address. Basically all the boxes should be untouched, and I just changed the last box. I read that you can choose up to 254. I went into my fios router admin to look at all the other addresses, which were all set by DHCP, they go up to the 20's. I figure I should be safe choosing 100 for the tivo plus, and 101 for the mini.

    In the next page, tivo shows me the subnet, gateway router address, and DNS address. It gives us the option to use those or enter our own. I just used those.

    Connection to tivo service is fine for both boxes. But can someone please chime in if it's as easy as what I did? Or is there more to it? Will I have issues down the road? Should I have entered my own subnesk, gateway address, dns address?
     
  5. siratfus

    siratfus New Member

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    If anyone has been successful solving their Mini drop connection issues, please chime in. I'm 10 days away from my 30 day grace period. So far, it's looking like this thing is going back.
     
  6. siratfus

    siratfus New Member

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    This worked! Thank you.

    knock on wood...
     
  7. mm2margaret

    mm2margaret Meagan

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    northern...

    Can I ask what worked? I am having a lot of v87 errors between my Mini and my Roamio
     
  8. Feb 7, 2014 #8 of 33
    obeythelaw2004

    obeythelaw2004 Member

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    I've been getting these lately as well on my Mini. I'm hooked up via Ethernet and I really only see it on playback. I haven't given static IP's yet but didn't want to have to do that if some say it doesn't work. I am going to power cycle my modem and router and see if that does anything.
     
  9. Feb 8, 2014 #9 of 33
    mm2margaret

    mm2margaret Meagan

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    northern...
    Well, I have statically IP addressed my Mini and I am still getting v87 errors and other errors. I am using Moca between the Mini and my Roamio, so it's not so simple. Glad it worked for you.
     
  10. marklyn

    marklyn New Member

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    I'm set up on Moca and today, I just got a V87 error on my mini. I tried live tv a few times and it finally went to live tv for about 15 seconds then went back to the v87 error.
    I restarted the mini and went to live tv, but the error popped up again after about 10 seconds.
    This is also happening on my second mini.
    I restarted my Roamio and all mini's, but still no change.

    I do now notice on my Tivo main menu screen the C133 error so I'm guessing that there is some problem with the Tivo service that somehow is causing this V87 error. Any ideas
     
  11. kherr

    kherr Member

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    A word of caution when assigning static IP along with using DHCP(router assigned IP) is not to assign the same IP. The method many use is what is called a "sticky" DHCP IP. This is done in the router by configuring it to assign the IP according to the MAC address. Since everything has a unique MAC address and never changes, the IP never changes. This is usually as simple as checking a box in the router. Unless you keep a record of static IPs you have assigned, and those assigned by DHCP, the possibility of duplicating them exists (been there done that), and can cause all sorts of problems including intermittent problems.
     
  12. DigitalDawn

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    It's actually called a DHCP reservation. :)
     
  13. ncfoster

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    There is also typically a setting in most routers which will let you set the range which the DHCP server will use to assign IP addresses. If you decide to truly use static IP addresses, rather than the previously mentioned "DHCP reservation" style, you are best served to keep the static addresses outside of this range in order to avoid conflicts between devices.
     
  14. siratfus

    siratfus New Member

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    I can't speak for anything else other than fios because I'm not sure how people connect when they don't have direct moca. But for me, the C133 completely disappeared when I changed the location of the router, therefore changing which splitter it was hooked on. My ONT is in the garage, and the cable splits to five different rooms. If you have a similar set-up, trying moving your router to another room if possible. I had the router in the garage, and the tivo in the upstairs master bed, so maybe it was the distance. I put the router in a 2nd bedroom upstairs, and the c133 has completely gone away.
     
  15. myboy1967

    myboy1967 New Member

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    I set up the MOCA and never had a problen after that. Running 2 Mini's perfectly now.
     
  16. marklyn

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    I should mention that my issue was resolved shortly after I posted. It turned out to be related to a coax splitter issue. A TW serviceman, who "doesn't know" moca and Tivo very well had replaced my 5-2040Mhz coax splitter with one from his truck. It was unlabeled but my guess is that it wasn't in the same Mhz range, when I replaced the splitter with my original splitter, I stopped receiving the errors on my mini's.
     
  17. blacknoi

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    Just had my first V87 error yesterday (connected via ethernet, DHCP [not static ip]).

    Was watching a prerecorded show and the connection cut, v87.

    Hit the Tivo button, then started playing the show again (it picked up right at the point where I lost connection) and was fine ever since.

    Can't figure out why this is happening as its all hardwired.

    As my prior tivo setup (1 S3 OLED and 1 TivoHD in the bedroom), was flawless, my wife has no toleration for periodic hiccups. It should 'just work.'

    I'll give the static IP address a try as plan B. Can't see Moca being more reliable than ethernet so that will be plan C.

    I have a few unmanged switches + a router on my network that work flawless with all my other PC equipment, and also worked equally well for 'transfers' of shows versus streaming.
     
  18. obeythelaw2004

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    I have gotten the V87 error from the moment I bought my Roamio Plus and the mini. I have the mini connected via Ethernet. I had the error happen just on the mini and I can't calculate when it will happen as it is not consistent. I have only noticed on recorded playback toward the end of a recording. I have restarted the mini and restarted the Roamio. I'll still get the the error message. I had everything set up with dynamic dhcp. When I read that people suggested setting static ip, I gave both the mini and Roamio static ip. Still didn't fix it as I will still get the error message at certain times. I'm on a Fios connection with a 50 down and 25 up connection. I think the mini's need an update to fix the problem and it has to come from tivo.
     
  19. blacknoi

    blacknoi Member

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    To follow up on your post and my prior one from February, I have the same issues.

    Happens periodically, with no consistency. Very annoying. Most of the time I can just pick back up where I left off, but sometimes when it loses connection, it forgets where I'm at and I have to start playback from the beginning (and manually FF back to where I lost the connection).

    This is true on a mini and now a 2nd full roamio in the house streaming.

    Roamio to roamio TRANSFER (not streaming) is flawless.
     
  20. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    Mission...
    Historically the V87 error happens to me only when I start watching something that is still recording on the host TiVo. At some point after the show has finished recording the V87 error will show up. I have never had the error while streaming shows that have fully recorded before I start watching them. (Note that this bug has been present ever since MRS first came out, before the Minis were released).
     

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