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Tivo HD Upgrade Instructions - using JMFS

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by Tivoitis, Jan 4, 2011.

  1. Feb 22, 2011 #81 of 657
    alyssa

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    SoKal,
    you may want to remove your Service Number from your post in the system information screen.
    Glad it worked out & you were able to save your shows.
     
  2. Feb 22, 2011 #82 of 657
    ThreeSoFar

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    Easy way to do that--turn on suggestions and go into the thumbs up/down section and rate a bunch of shows.
     
  3. Feb 23, 2011 #83 of 657
    peter888chan

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    Upgrade process worked just fine going from a 1TB WinMFS expanded drive to a 2TB Hitachi HDS5C3020ALA632 drive with these instructions. Hardest part was just waiting for all the data to get copied over. Didn't bother with the Supersize though.
     
  4. Mar 3, 2011 #84 of 657
    defucius

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    My tivo HD is stuck on "please wait, powering up" now. Apparently, Tivo pushed an update last night. I suspect it has being powering up since then. Anybody else having the same problem?
     
  5. Mar 3, 2011 #85 of 657
    Tivoitis

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    I've got 11.0k-01-2-652 on my two THD's now ... never even noticed that they had upgraded/rebooted. They seems to be operating just fine.
     
  6. Mar 3, 2011 #86 of 657
    defucius

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    well, i just pull the plug on it (been pulling the tv plug trying to reboot the tivo earlier :) and it finally boot up. But it lost all sound. doing a software reboot now.
     
  7. Mar 3, 2011 #87 of 657
    defucius

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    another update: the soft-reboot failed, again, but hard reboot fixed the sound this time. I wonder if this update made it necessary to disable the IntelliPark on the WD green drives again.
     
  8. Mar 3, 2011 #88 of 657
    richsadams

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    I doubt it. If it had you probably would have never been able to boot up. Did you try another menu restart? If that fails, it's possible the Intellipark feature may need to be adjusted. When was your hard drive manufactured?

    Over the years updates have caused a few TiVo's to hang, nothing unusual. The audio issue you encountered sounds more like an HDMI/HDCP handshake snag (also cured with reboots).

    Glad to hear all is well. :up:
     
  9. Mar 3, 2011 #89 of 657
    ThreeSoFar

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    Easiest way to fill up your drive is to leave TiVo Suggestions ON. Click a few thumbs up/down on what it records, and over time what it finds for you will be more to your liking. And the Suggestions folder is essentially "free space"--it's the first thing removed when a new (requested) recording is made.
     
  10. Mar 13, 2011 #90 of 657
    Doit2it

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    I'm so happy I found this thread!

    My TivoHD has been randomly rebooting more and more frequently. I ordered a WD20EARS from Amazon. A day later I had a reboot that got stuck on "please wait, powering up". I opened it up and, since it's only been open once for a 750Gb upgrade, it was full of dust. A few blasts of canned air, a mushroom cloud of dust, and a coughing fit later I put her back together and no reboots in the past 2 days. Never underestimate a good cleaning. Scaring the dust bunnies away fixed my issue. Of course I'm still doing the upgrade when my 2Tb drive arrives. 318 hours beats 116 every day.

    Thanks to all who have pioneered the JMFS process for TivoHD.
    I'll let you know how my upgrade goes when my drive arrives!
     
  11. Mar 13, 2011 #91 of 657
    mattack

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    I realize this is somewhat off-topic, but the jmfs tools gives me the info that I need in another context, so I'll ask here.

    jmfs doesn't work on Series 3s, and my previous Series 3 drive died, so I'm limping along with the orig drive (that is causing reboots, a major reason I upgraded a couple of years ago).

    I want to do the upgrade booted from the mfstools upgrade CD.. on a Mac (I know this works). But how can I figure out which drive is which, in the linux booted from that CD?

    jmfs tells me exactly the hard drive model #, so I can verify the sizes for source/destination before starting the copy. (e.g. my laptop drive is ST9100824AS)

    How can I figure that out at the linux command line before doing an upgrade? I especially obviously want to avoid any other drives installed in the system?
     
  12. Mar 13, 2011 #92 of 657
    ThreeSoFar

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    I know, that's the cool thing about jmfs, isn't it.

    I hope this helps--Hear's a quick linux tutorial at the mfstools boot CD:

    • fdisk -l # Lists all of the drives seen at boot, includes a list of partitions
    • dmesg # lists all boot messages
    • egrep # filters the output of what you "pipe" to it
    • | # That's the pipe--it sends the output of the first command to the second command as its input

    So, you run the fdisk -l. The TiVo drives all have a ton of partitions, the empty one should have none (unless you were using it for something like windows before this).

    Another way to confirm it is:

    dmesg | egrep "[hs]d"


    That is, you run dmesg, and you "pipe" its output to egrep, egrep then shows you any lines that contain "hd" or "sd". The SATA drives are most likely "sda" through "sdc"--I included "hd" anyway--hose are IDE drives or maybe your CD drive.

    Yet another way:

    mfsinfo /dev/sda
    mfsinfo /dev/sdb


    The mfsinfo will show the TiVo information about a drive, to include how many hours storage.
     
  13. Mar 15, 2011 #93 of 657
    bobby4919

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    I've read through this thread and others and I think I have a pretty good idea on what to do but just wanted to validate that these procedures will work for my situation:

    Tivo HD with a 1TB Weaknees drive.
    I want to upgrade to a 2tb drive and keep all of my existing shows.
    Would also like the cablecard pairings to transfer to the new drive.

    Will the procedures discussed above work in this situation?

    Thanks.
     
  14. Mar 15, 2011 #94 of 657
    retiredqwest

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    It will do a 100% COMPLETE disc copy..... what ever is on the source drive it will copy to the target drive.

    You'll need 7-12 hrs to do this depending on what type of connection you use for the hard drives.....

    If JMFS finds the Weaknees drive, it will copy it.
     
  15. Mar 19, 2011 #95 of 657
    Doit2it

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    Done! Easy as pie, thanks to everyone here.

    Upgraded from a dying WD 750Gb to the WD20EARS using the save settings method. The drive was dying. I know I said in an earlier post that a good dusting had fixed my reboot issue, but they resurfaced again. With both drives sitting idle this morning, the 750Gb surface temp was 108 degrees and the 2Tb was 93 degrees.

    Copy took about 4.75 hours, based on my estimates (copied 158Gb in 1st hour). I was asleep at 3:15am when it probably finished.
    Had both drives connected directly to my Dell 2.4Ghz Quad with 4Gb RAM

    Expand took 5 to 10 seconds

    Supersize had been done with WinMFS on the original drive and carried over to the new one, along with all my settings, recordings, etc.

    I used hdparm -M to set AAM to 128

    I left the idle setting alone. Can hdparm -S be used to set the Idle Timer?

    Notes: The 1st reboot took a long time. After the Powering Up screen, black screen, then Powering Up again. Thought I was in a reboot loop. But I waited and it eventually went to the Few More Minutes screen and then I was watching Tivo guy jump around. I did a software reboot, and it went flawlessly.


    Thanks again to everyone in this thread that pioneered the process!
     
  16. Mar 19, 2011 #96 of 657
    JohnNButchNGunny

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    I've owned my TIVO HD (TCD652160) for just over 2 years now (2+ years of flawless operation), and have been researching upgrade options to a 2 TB drive for about the past year. My budget-driven goal was to spend about $100 for the drive, and while waiting for that price point I educated myself by reading hundreds of the great posts here. Until recently, the only path I saw to executing the upgrade (without going to a vendor) was to obtain a copy of elusive "Broflovski image" (reubanks graciously offered to provide this image). Up to this point, my only posts here were ones regarding this image.

    When I read here about the amazing work by "Comer" (although focused on the Premiere) that was then proven (with a simple change) to support upgrading a TIVO HD to a 2TB drive, I rationalized exceeding my budget (by $14.99) and getting a Western Digital WD20EVDS from Amazon.com for $114.99.

    I was ready and waiting to execute the following procedures with the downloaded software, my unused/hobby project Intel D945GCLF with 2 SATA ports, and a Torx toolkit:

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=8143047#post8143047

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=8309405#post8309405


    The full copy of the original 160 GB drive took less than 2 hours, and then just a few seconds for the "expand". As documented, the software reported that I now had 288 hours of recording space available. The "Supersize" with WINMFS then brought me up to 318 HD recording hours - the additional 30 GB increase being greater than the max of 21 hours reported by my TIVO HD for the stock, 160 GB drive.

    After putting the new drive back in my TIVO HD and powering it up (it breezed flawless through the startup processes), I executed the system restart to ensure that my new Western Digital drive did not exhibit the "warm boot" issue requiring the use of "widdle" to change a firmware setting. My drive was manufactured after the date where the problem was supposedly resolved, but I wanted to double-check after reading the history here. Again, another smooth startup.

    I put my original TIVO HD 160 GB drive in the anti-static bag and protective packaging from my new drive, taped it up, and put it in a safe place in the event my new drive should fail at some point. I may even swap them out every now and then to keep the system software up to date on the old drive.

    Not only do I now have 318 hours of HD recording time, but all of the recordings I had on the original drive are on my new 2TB drive, as well (and with the same reference points from which to 'resume' playback).

    To all of you Tivo HD users: unless your are in the difficult position of having a drive crash/failure, there is NO reason to search for an image to upgrade your hard drive to 2TB. The tools and procedures created by "Comer" worked FLAWLESSLY for me (and for others as is documented in this forum).

    I'm so happy that when I'm sent on the road now for 3+ weeks at a time, I won't have to be "surprised" by the decisions TIVO has made when it doesn't have enough disk space to record my defined "Season Pass" items. Tivo is performing as designed and documented, but sometimes I might be more in the mood for the latest episode of "The Big Bang Theory" over "Modern Family". If only TIVO could figure that out... <g>

    I cannot thank "Comer" and everyone else here enough for both the education you have provided, and your hard work in developing software tools and documented procedures for drive upgrades. I could not be happier with the end result.

    THANKS!! -- John
     
  17. Mar 19, 2011 #97 of 657
    richsadams

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    That initial boot up is a real nail biter for sure! (A lot of housekeeping going on in the background.)

    If TiVo booted up okay and will reboot from a menu restart you don't need to adjust the Intellipark (Idle timer) setting.

    Congrats and enjoy!
     
  18. Mar 19, 2011 #98 of 657
    richsadams

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    Hi John, thanks for all of the details, nice work. :up:

    Enjoy your "new" TiVo!
     
  19. Mar 20, 2011 #99 of 657
    bobby4919

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    well... not so good success. My goal was to upgrade a 1TB Weaknees upgraded drive to 2tb (in a TivoHD) while saving all my shows and settings.

    Ran:
    1) jmfs to copy the drive
    2) jmfs to expand it
    3) winmfs to supersize it

    On boot up in Tivo i got the error saying my external storage was missing. I told Tivo to go ahead and separate from the external storage. Several hours later Tivo finished booting. All my shows are there, the cable cards are paired, but i've only got 157 hours on a 2TB drive. Half of what it should be?

    Did I do something wrong? Or is it maybe because Weaknees expanded the drive originally in an unconventional way.

    Any ideas/help would be appreciated.
     
  20. Doit2it

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    I've also noticed my menus are faster. If I change the position or delete a Season Pass (I have 50) it used to take 20 to 35 seconds of "Wait time", now it only takes about 5 to 9 seconds.

    Is it just a newer, faster drive (WD20EARS, same spindle speed thou) or the fact that the old one was apparently failing? Or does fragmentation occur over the life of the drive?

    Also, can I use the old drive in a Windows system? Is the Linux/Tivo OS that finicky when it comes to drive performance? Or is it best just trashing my WD7500AAKS drive. Or was that WD model the issue?

    Addendum: I hooked up the drive and ran HDDScan. The S.M.A.R.T. test shows UltraDMA CRC Errors on the drive.

    Sorry for the barrage of questions, just curious.
     

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