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Tivo HD Upgrade Instructions - using JMFS

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by Tivoitis, Jan 4, 2011.

  1. steve614

    steve614 what ru lookin at?

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    I'm in the process of upgrading a Tivo HD hard drive with JMFS.
    I have successfully completed the the copy and expansion.

    Now I'm trying to use winmfs to do the supersize, but the Tivo hard drive is not showing up. :confused: (see attached image)

    What do I do from here?

    Running Windows 7 with winmfs_beta9_3f.
     

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  2. richsadams

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    How is the drive connected?
     
  3. dwit

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    Try checking that little box in the bottom right corner that says "Show Mounted Drives".
     
  4. richsadams

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    D'oh! Missed that. :eek:
     
  5. steve614

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    Thanks for the quick replies. :up:

    Apparently, you need to run winmfs "as administrator" in Windows 7.
    Got the idea from the MFSLive website which states to do that for Vista. It didn't occur to me that you would have to do that in W7. :eek:

    So, I'll find out tomorrow if it all worked. Can't swap the drive tonight as there is a NASCAR race AND football on at the same time. :eek:

    ETA: I also changed the HD boot priority in BIOS, but I don't think that had any effect.
     
  6. steve614

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    Success! Tivo booted up and shows 318 hr capacity of HD goodness.:cool:

    Thanks again to the software writers for making it easy, :up:
    AND to the others who quickly help out those of us who experience user error. :D
     
  7. richsadams

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    Very cool! Enjoy!
     
  8. Sep 1, 2011 #248 of 657
    lew

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    I have an eSATA port on my desktop case. The cable from the port goes to an open SATA jack on the MB. As expected there is no issue using it to adjust the parameters on WD drives.

    I don't think the computer or software even knows the drive is physically outside of the computer and connected with a eSATA cable.

    I didn't bother with an enclosure. I have a eSATA to SATA cable. I used the power cable and wall "brick" from a USB-SATA kit to power the drive. I just let the raw drive sit on top of the PC Case (anti-stack bag under the drive).

    My new MB also has a eSATA port on the back panel. I guess I'll get a second cable before I use JMFS.
     
  9. Sep 1, 2011 #249 of 657
    richsadams

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    Hope that works. Let us know how it goes!
     
  10. Sep 2, 2011 #250 of 657
    tiassa

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    BIG Problem!!!

    I'm trying to use JMFS to copy my existing (working just fine) Tivo HD 160 Gig to a WD20EARS and it isn't working. JMFS Finds both drives and appears to start copying, but after a while it says "Could not verify MFS on Targer drive, you cannot expand this drive (or something similar) and if I go to the expansion menu it doesnt' see the the WD20EARS. I have both drives plugged into SATA connectors on the Motherboard of the computer. ONe more thing I noticed is that on the copying screen there is a line that says "time from last successful read" and that appears to be about as long (maybe s little shorter) than the time the the copy routine had been running. Does anyone have any ideas?
     
  11. Sep 2, 2011 #251 of 657
    richsadams

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    Is your TiVo OEM drive running the latest version? If not, you should reinstall it and force a few network connections until it updates.

    Otherwise I might start fresh and see how it goes, but it sounds like data corruption may be halting the process. It could be the TiVo drive or the new drive, hard to say.

    If that's the case it might be worthwhile to do two things. I'd start by slipping the original drive back into TiVo and running Kickstart 57 and 58. The I'd run KS 54 to see if any errors come back.

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showpost.php?p=5643823&postcount=2

    If all goes well and/or concurrently I'd run Western Digital's Lifeguard on the new drive to see if there are any issues.

    Others may have some thoughts, but those are mine.

    Best of luck and let us know how it goes!
     
  12. Sep 2, 2011 #252 of 657
    unitron

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    Like richsadams said, run the WD diagnostic software on that puppy. The long test.

    Apparently WD's quality control on the 20EARS is slipping lately.
     
  13. Sep 2, 2011 #253 of 657
    tiassa

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    Maybe it was a loose connection or something. I swapped the cables on the original and WD20EARS drives and everything seemed to run OK.

    I've got everything back together and am now looking at the "Just a few minutes more" screen"

    Wish me luck

    <Hawk_Harrelson>You can put it (where "it"=318 HD hours) on the board YES!!</Hawk_Harrelson>
     
  14. Sep 2, 2011 #254 of 657
    richsadams

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    Well? I can't hold my breath much longer!! :p

    Oh...does that the last little entry mean success? Woo hoo! Congrats and enjoy!
     
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    richsadams

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    Ah...got it! My brother-in-law would know that one for sure!
     
  17. Sep 4, 2011 #257 of 657
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    Doh! I just discovered that one of my TivoHD repeatedly rebooting & GSOD is a known issue with the Broflovski image.

    I thought my drive was failing, but I was hoping to repair the drive to save the recorded shows, but I guess they are unrecoverable now. Oh well.

    Time to give JMFS a try. Maybe next weekend.
     
  18. Sep 4, 2011 #258 of 657
    tiassa

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    Just a couple of final notes on my upgrade:
    The copy (once I got it working) took about 2 hours, this was with both drives connected to SATA ports on the motherboard of an Dual core AMD Phenom PC

    Even thought my drive has a June 2011 manufacture date, it looks like I'm going to have to run wdidle on it, as I tried a "Warm boot" and it just sat there at the "powering up" screen it never got to the "Almost there" screen.

    The WD20EARS drive runs a lot cooler than the original WD drive in the Tivo it was noticeably cooler to the touch, I guess there is something to this whole "Green drive" thing.

    I've got a decent set of pictures of the whole process (I took them so that I would know how things went back together), If people think it is worthwhile I'll try to figure a way to post them somewhere, although once you open up the Tivo it is pretty obvious what needs to be done.
     
  19. Sep 4, 2011 #259 of 657
    steve614

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    I didn't take any chances when I did my upgrade. I ran wdidle whether it was needed or not. Only added a couple of minutes to the upgrade process.
    Next time you'll know better. ;)

    :)
     
  20. Sep 5, 2011 #260 of 657
    yukit

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    I can at least confirm that a newer WD20EARS drive (my build is Jun 16) does not support AAM. The hdparm command returns unsupported error.

    I am still in a process of getting the new 2TB drive to work using JMFS, but my TivoHD claims there is a problem with the hardware, though the tuners are working fine.
    My TivoHD's serial number is not recognized in the account info page. It is 652- with a bunch of zeroes.

    I am trying C&DE now to see if it will do anything.
    If this does not work, I am going back to my temporary 1GB drive.


    What I also would like to find out is, what can I do with the old 2TB "Broflovski" image gone bad? It is showing the GSOD repeated rebooting symptom,but the drive itself is fine under diagnostics. It would be nice to "fix" the drive so I can at least plug it in my spare TivoHD to watch the rest of shows.
     

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