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Tivo HD Upgrade Instructions - using JMFS

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by Tivoitis, Jan 4, 2011.

  1. richsadams

    richsadams Active Member

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    Understood. I think the instructions are referring to a Windows keyboard. Did you happen to try Command+C? Just wondering if that would do it since Command is equal to Control.
     
  2. mattack

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    Umm, no. Windows uses control like Apple uses command, but other than that they have nothing to do with each other.

    Macs run real UNIX, and thus use control-C.. ESPECIALLY since I'm running a Linux CD!! (it's only Mac hardware in that case.)
     
  3. richsadams

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    I was thinking more in the respect that for instance to copy some text on a Windows keyboard you press Control+C. On a Mac keyboard you press Command+C to do the same thing. In that respect they are equal. Got it otherwise.

    Best of luck.
     
  4. Flyinace2000

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  5. Flyinace2000

    Flyinace2000 New Member

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    Also. Teh results of fdisk -l are this

    SDA (160gb)
    sda1 (NTFS)
    sda2 (NTFS)

    SDB 2000GB (unpartitionsed - new drive)

    So SDA is my boot drive. Is there anything i need to do to make sure that doesn't get wiped?

    Also when I look at cd /dev/sd (tab tab) it lists
    sda sda1 sda2 sdb sdc

    is SDC just a place holder or is it only sort of showing up? Do i need to mount it manually?
     
  6. Flyinace2000

    Flyinace2000 New Member

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    And for the record, the dock works when pluged into the iMac.

    [​IMG]

    Sorry for the stream of posts :)
     
  7. Flyinace2000

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    Emergency over.

    For some reason the TiVo drive did not like being in the dock. So i put the tivo on the USB Adatper and 2TB drive in the dock and everything worked. Currently copying.

    Thanks!
     
  8. richsadams

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    Interesting. No idea why that would be but glad things are working. :up:
     
  9. Flyinace2000

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    So for kicks i tried to do a reboot. I am stuck at the WELCOME POWERING UP screen. Is this what wdidle3.exe fixes?

    If so, i don't have any options unless there is a way to fake a SATA connection in a VM or i plug into my laptop.

    Also, how big of a deal is this? The Tivo doesn't do soft reboots very often and if one does happen for a software update couldn't i just pull the power and reboot?
     
  10. richsadams

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    Yes, if you can conduct a hard boot/reboot (unplug TiVo and plug it back in) but can't get it to reboot from a menu restart, the Intellipark setting will likely need to be adjusted using wdidle3.exe.

    That said, and as you surmise, it's really not a big deal. About the only time a soft reboot would come into play is when TiVo pushes an update. That happens three, sometimes four times a year. If you haven't made the Intellipark adjustment it just means that you'd come home to find TiVo hanging at the "Welcome! Poweing up..." screen and have to conduct a hard reboot. Keep in mind that while it's waiting that it's not recording anything so it could be inconvenient...particularly if you were away on vacation or something.

    Some WD drives won't boot up at all without adjusting Intelipark. Others (like yours) will boot up okay but they can't handle a menu restart without the adjustment. Yet others don't need any adjustment at all. It seems to all depend on the drive, the date of manufacture and the alignment of the stars. :rolleyes:

    Other than using a direct SATA port on a PC's motherboard or a SATA port on a PCI card (not an eSATA connection), there really isn't any other way to successfully run wdidle3.exe. Perhaps you have a friend that has a PC?
     
  11. Flyinace2000

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    What about a PC card (for laptops) that has SATA ports on it?

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16839328030
    (it says eSATA so...maybe not)


    I could always take the drive out of my laptop, plug in the TiVo drive boot up the computer (without the bottom cover on) and adjust it that way. Just don't feel super great about running the computer without that part! haha

    I will wait and see how big of a deal it is.
     
  12. richsadams

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    Unfortunately that's an eSATA (external SATA) port on the card and eSATA doesn't work with wdidle3.exe.

    IIRC someone else was able to connect their TiVo hard drive to their laptop's SATA port. Might be worth a try if you have the right cables, etc.
     
  13. PedjaR

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    I ran wdidle3.exe on WD20EARS successfully using eSATA (on a desktop PC, though).
     
  14. richsadams

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    Ah good...was it a separate eSATA enclosure or an eSATA on a PCI card?
     
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    PedjaR Member

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    Separate eSATA/USB enclosure (of course, wdiddle saw the drive only with the enclosure operating in eSATA mode).
     
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    richsadams

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    Well, that's very interesting indeed because AFAIK trying to adjust the Intellipark feature on a WD hard drive by connecting it via an eSATA enclosure has never worked in the past. :confused:

    I have an Antec MX-1 eSATA enclosure. I may have to give wdidle3.exe a try as soon as I have time. If that's the case now, it would be a great option for folks that don't have direct access to a computer's MB SATA port.

    What brand/model of eSATA enclosure did you use? TIA!
     
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    PedjaR

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    I borrowed it from a friend just for the upgrade and returned it. It looked like this:
    http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Product.aspx?S=1159&ID=1651
    so it is either that one or an earlier version of it (it was a bit old).
     
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    richsadams

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    Thanks for that! I'll test the one I have to see how it goes.
     
  19. teiland

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    I have a THD that I expanded from 160GB to 1TB with WinMFS. I used JMFS 1.04 to copy and expand the drive with no errors. When I put it in the TIVO, it thinks I have a missing external drive. Once the TIVO is done repairing the missing drive problem, I'm back where I started with 1TB of space.

    I think the problem is due to a little piece of unused space at the end of the 1TB drive which causes JMFS to add a 17th partition.

    Here is the map before JMFS expand:
    Partition Maps
    #: type name length base ( size )
    1 Apple_partition_map Apple 63@1 ( 31.5K)
    2 Image Bootstrap 1 1@309550766 ( 512.0 )
    3 Image Kernel 1 8192@309550767 ( 4.0M)
    4 Ext2 Root 1 524288@309558959 ( 256.0M)
    5 Image Bootstrap 2 1@310083247 ( 512.0 )
    6 Image Kernel 2 8192@310083248 ( 4.0M)
    7 Ext2 Root 2 524288@310091440 ( 256.0M)
    8 Swap Linux swap 262144@310615728 ( 128.0M)
    9 Ext2 /var 524288@310877872 ( 256.0M)
    10 MFS MFS application region 589824@311402160 ( 288.0M)
    11 MFS MFS media region 137630712@171920054 ( 65.6G)
    12 MFS MFS application region 2 589824@311991984 ( 288.0M)
    13 MFS MFS media region 2 171919990@64 ( 82.0G)
    14 MFS MFS App by Winmfs 2048@312581808 ( 1.0M)
    15 MFS MFS Media by Winmfs 1640939520@312583856 ( 782.5G)
    16 Apple_Free Extra 1791@1953523376( 895.5K)

    Here is the map after JMFS expand:
    Partition Maps
    #: type name length base ( size )
    1 Apple_partition_map Apple 63@1 ( 31.5K)
    2 Image Bootstrap 1 1@309550766 ( 512.0 )
    3 Image Kernel 1 8192@309550767 ( 4.0M)
    4 Ext2 Root 1 524288@309558959 ( 256.0M)
    5 Image Bootstrap 2 1@310083247 ( 512.0 )
    6 Image Kernel 2 8192@310083248 ( 4.0M)
    7 Ext2 Root 2 524288@310091440 ( 256.0M)
    8 Swap Linux swap 262144@310615728 ( 128.0M)
    9 Ext2 /var 524288@310877872 ( 256.0M)
    10 MFS MFS application region 589824@311402160 ( 288.0M)
    11 MFS MFS media region 137630712@171920054 ( 65.6G)
    12 MFS MFS application region 2 589824@311991984 ( 288.0M)
    13 MFS MFS media region 2 171919990@64 ( 82.0G)
    14 MFS MFS App by Winmfs 2048@312581808 ( 1.0M)
    15 MFS MFS Media by Winmfs 1640939520@312583856 ( 782.5G)
    16 Apple_Free Extra 1791@1953523376( 895.5K)
    17 MFS MFS media region 3 1953504001@1953525167( 931.5G)

    Any ideas on how to fix this or if it can be fixed? Can I swap partition 16 and 17?
     
  20. dwit

    dwit Active Member

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    If you are only using a 1 TB drive, there is no reason to involve JMFS. WinMfs is all you need. JMFS is used for copying and expanding to drives larger than 1 TB.

    What are you trying to copy and expand the 1 TB drive to? What are you trying to copy? What are you expanding to?
     

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