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TiVo HD Reboot Hell

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by Sparty99, Aug 26, 2012.

  1. Sparty99

    Sparty99 Well-Known Member

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    I'm trying to prepare an upgraded TiVo HD for sale, so I went through and did the "Clear and Delete Everything". On reboot, it just cycles through the "Welcome! Powering Up" and "Almost there...a few more minutes please" screens. I've unplugged it several times for extended periods of time, and nothing seems to work. The unit worked fine until I ran the "Clear and Delete Everything".

    Any suggestions?
     
  2. steve614

    steve614 what ru lookin at?

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    Do you get far enough into the boot process to try a kickstart?
    http://www.weaknees.com/tivo-kickstart-codes.php

    I think 54 and 57 are the two for this situation.

    If you still have the Tivo open, it might be wise to pull the drive and run the manufacturer's diagnostics on it.
     
  3. dwit

    dwit Active Member

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    Try the kickstarts.

    You will have to search here on how to initiate(if you don't already know). I think the easiest way to the instructions may be at weaknees.com.

    Kickstarts are not the easiest thing for a beginner to initiate, but if ultimately unsuccessful you may have to conclude that the drive is bad and/or the image is corrupted.

    Run the drive mfr diagnostic on the drive to evaluate. Reimage if necessary/desired.

    Bad power supply/capacitors also a possibility.

    Since it is "upgraded", do you still, by chance, have the original(working) drive handy?
     
  4. Sparty99

    Sparty99 Well-Known Member

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    I'm working on the Kickstarts. I think it's working on number 57 right now.

    The unit was upgraded years ago (I don't even remember how long). It turns out it's actually the original Series 3, not an HD. The original drive is long gone.

    What's weird is the unit worked fine until I ran the Clear and Delete Everything.

    I would really like to get this working, as it has lifetime service on it and can probably fetch me a few bucks on eBay.

    Thanks for everyone's help.
     
  5. steve614

    steve614 what ru lookin at?

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    Maybe the CD&E unearthed a problem with the drive. Hopefully the kickstart takes care of it.
    If not, check the image thread if you need an image to restore to a new hard drive.

    Also check the power supply. Original S3 (w/OLED) Tivos are starting to show signs of capacitor plague.
     
  6. Sparty99

    Sparty99 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, looks like the hard drive is fried. I think I've still got the image and the original drive, but I may look to putting in another 1 tb, depending on how cheaply I can get one. Does anyone know where I can find the list of supported drives.
     
  7. jrtroo

    jrtroo Chill- its just TV

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    I would first check to see if the marginal cost of putting in a new drive is less than what you'll get selling the upgraded unit on ebay. Why do through the work if you don't need to?
     
  8. Sparty99

    Sparty99 Well-Known Member

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    That will definitely be a consideration. But it does have the lifetime service on there so I'd imagine it has some level of value (I'm not sure what, it's been a while since I checked). I wonder if I could complain to TiVo that the CDE killed my hard drive and allow me to transfer it to the TiVo Premiere Elite I also want to sell.

    (I know, wishful thinking.)
     
  9. jrtroo

    jrtroo Chill- its just TV

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    C&DE did not cause the issue, it just uncovered it. Tivo will only offer to replace at cost.

    Tivos with lifetime are quite valuable. Especially if it is a "qualifying unit". I just don't know if you will get a return on the ~$100 for a new drive opposed to just dropping in the old one.
     
  10. Sparty99

    Sparty99 Well-Known Member

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    What's a "qualifying unit"?
     
  11. jrtroo

    jrtroo Chill- its just TV

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    In this example, a Qualifying Unit is a box that had lifetime service purchased at full price. It will allow for other boxes to receive a MSD, either lifetime or monthly.

    Lifetime service purchased at a MSD discount will not allow for another MSD purchase. That takes a full-price "qualifying unit".
     
  12. Sparty99

    Sparty99 Well-Known Member

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    Can someone point me to someplace listing out the drives that can be used in the TiVo Series 3? I've found my original image and the original drive, but it appears the drive may be dead.
     
  13. Sparty99

    Sparty99 Well-Known Member

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    So a quick update for anyone interested. I reloaded the backup onto the 1TB drive that I thought was dead, and naturally it went back to the shows at that spot (several years ago). I then ran Clear & Delete Everything, and now everything is normal and the drive seems to be working fine.

    I'm wondering if I should include this information in the eBay listing.
     
  14. L David Matheny

    L David Matheny Active Member

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    If you really want to be sure the drive is OK, run the manufacturer's full diagnostic scan on it before you sell it. If it passes, that would imply that your original problem was just caused by TiVo's software getting corrupted somehow. If it fails, that would mean somebody will need to replace the drive. Or I guess you could mention the problem and suggest that the eBay purchaser needs to run the diagnostic scan.
     
  15. Sparty99

    Sparty99 Well-Known Member

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    I can run the diagnostic, thanks for the tip. I'll find the Hitachi diagnostic program when I get home tonight.
     

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