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Tivo HD Finally Upgraded

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by spike2k5, Jul 30, 2007.

  1. Aug 3, 2007 #61 of 298
    rainwater

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    I've used Western Digital drives in my TiVos for years and they weren't designed for "24/7 use". However, I have yet to have one die on me. I have not seen any data that says that the DB35 drives actually have a lower failure rate than other drives. Frankly, I am more concerned with balancing low sound levels with a good price.
     
  2. Aug 3, 2007 #62 of 298
    tivoupgrade

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    That's because none exists... And the mechanicals of the DB35 are the same as any other current Seagate drive; its the firmware that is slightly different.

    The reality of the situation is that the reliability of the drive you put in will be based upon two factors (assuming you are purchasing a high quality brand)

    1) randomness; a certain percentage of all drives will fail, no matter what you do
    2) handling; if you drop or mishandle a drive, it will have a shorter life

    With that in mind, buying locally is certainly not a bad idea, especially if its in retail packaging (very protected during the shipping process). And buying mail order is not a problem either as long as the drive is properly packaged and not drop kicked in the process.

    You should really just do what you are most comfortable with, when it comes to those two choices and you will be fine.
     
  3. Aug 3, 2007 #63 of 298
    jmpage2

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    Is there any capability to load new FW to a Seagate drive to make the 7200.10 drive behave with DB35 profile for acoustics, etc?

    I just bought what I thought would be a 7200.9 500GB Seagate drive from CC ($105 after coupon) and opened up the box to find a7200.10 drive in the package.

    I know that the 7200.10 is a tank of a drive but it has a reputation for being noisy. If there was a way to load it with DB35 FW that would be great.
     
  4. Aug 3, 2007 #64 of 298
    tivoupgrade

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    There is no way you'll be able to do that, unfortunately. Even if its possible, with that particular drive, its tightly controlled by Seagate. The reason they offer the DB35 drives is for the very reason you speak of, however.
     
  5. Aug 3, 2007 #65 of 298
    jmpage2

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    OK, fair enough. I know that there are some tools for the IBM/HP drives that do similar things so I thought I'd ask.
     
  6. Aug 3, 2007 #66 of 298
    bkdtv

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    Thanks to spike2k5's work, my TivoHD now has a 750Gb drive.

    Screenshot below.

    [​IMG]
     
  7. Aug 3, 2007 #67 of 298
    Beantownbeanie

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    DITTO...big time. Thanks Spike...

    I had to get BB to price match a drive at CC so I now have a 500GB with 64 hours on my Tivo HD. It only cost me 109 to do the upgrade. It was AMAZINGLY simple. Thanks again....whooo hooo.
     
  8. Aug 4, 2007 #68 of 298
    jfh3

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    So what drive did you end up getting? The 500GB WD on sale?
     
  9. Aug 4, 2007 #69 of 298
    Beantownbeanie

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    ST3500641AS-RK 119 at CC price matched to BB and then I had some coupons to knock it down more.
    This was so easy I may go ahead and the next time I see a TB on sale go buy it online and then put the 500GB as an additional drive on my server.
     
  10. Aug 4, 2007 #70 of 298
    ThreeSoFar

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    I upgraded my S3 myself when I first got it, been going fine ever since. That was before this came out. I think it was just using regular mfstools?



    Is there some software update coming from TiVo that might break that?
     
  11. Aug 4, 2007 #71 of 298
    bkdtv

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    People have been upgrading the hard drives on their Tivos for years.

    No Tivo update has ever broken a drive upgrade, as far as I know. I would still hang on to the original drive though, just in case.
     
  12. Aug 4, 2007 #72 of 298
    jmpage2

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    That's the one I bought too, I think I ended up paying $105 + tax.

    It does have a reputation for being very noisy with seeks though. :(
     
  13. Aug 4, 2007 #73 of 298
    cr33p

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    What type of drive do I need for my TivoHD to upgrade? I know it has to be an SATA, is the connection called secure connect?
     
  14. Aug 4, 2007 #74 of 298
    c3

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    Ignore "secure connect". Any SATA drive would work.
     
  15. Aug 4, 2007 #75 of 298
    aaronwt

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    Although you can get a good deal on the Western Digital drives. You can pick up their 750GB perpendicular recording drive for $200 and their 500 GB drive is a little over $100 now. Both of those drives are very quiet, especially after enabling the acoustic management.
     
  16. Aug 4, 2007 #76 of 298
    c3

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    Yes, WD would be my top choice. All of my TiVos have WD drives. The regular Seagates are too noisy (for TiVo usage), and the DB35 drives are too expensive.
     
  17. Aug 4, 2007 #77 of 298
    ThreeSoFar

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    I've always used Samsung drives, been very pleased with their holding up well and being quiet.
     
  18. Aug 4, 2007 #78 of 298
    cr33p

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    Thanks for all the info, I see newegg has 750 gb WD for 199 before shipping. So is everyone pretty comfortable that the new tools are working ok and so are the tivo's that have been upgraded so far? I just got a new TivoHD and want to pop in a new drive. What could be the potential problems?
     
  19. Aug 5, 2007 #79 of 298
    KiddSupreme

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    I know this might be a dumb question (at least at this point in time), but can anyone explain why/why not it is/is not possible to utilize two internal hard drives in the TivoHD? I remember reading Megazone's opening of the TivoHD @ Tivolovers that there seems to be screwholes in place for a dual hard drive harness (ala weaknees dual drive upgrade for Series 1 & 2).

    Now I know obviously there isn't any harness created yet for the TivoHD (and maybe there never will be), but from a technical and software standpoint, would this be in the realm of possibility? I not really interested in an external sata drive setup. I much rather have everything inside to make it easier to move if need be.

    Maybe even a setup such that the external SATA is activated, but the drive itself is internal to the machine. Something like that might work (might not). Anyways, just wanted to bounce some ideas off you guys and see what you might think.

    Personally for me, my dream is to have a dual drive 2 TB drive setup in my TivoHD... :p Maybe I'm dreaming?
     
  20. Aug 5, 2007 #80 of 298
    bkdtv

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    The TivoHD has one internal SATA connector and one external eSATA connector. The eSATA connection is not supported by the current software / driver.
     

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