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Tivo HD Finally Upgraded

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by spike2k5, Jul 30, 2007.

  1. SCSIRAID

    SCSIRAID Active Member

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    Not sure I understand your question...

    You need a working Windows system (xp sp2) with the winmfs executable. Connect the stock Tivo drive and the new drive. Run winmfs. select the tivo drive, select copy, select new drive as destination and go. Hit yes when it asks if you want to expand. put it back together and enjoy.
     
  2. WANUB

    WANUB New Member

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    Sorry... I missed some detail..

    I have 2 SATA drives already taking up th 2 SATA ports on my Dell. I was going to use a USB to SATA adapter to do this. I assume that winmfs will put a copy some where on my PC and I was wondering if it is ok if the all my partitions are NTFS.

    Thanks
     
  3. AbMagFab

    AbMagFab What happened, TiVo?

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    That whole FAT32 thing is old-school. Not an issue any more.

    XP SP2 or Vista work great. Either pop the drive into an external SATA enclosure, or connect it directly to a SATA port on your PC. Run WinMFS, backup to anywhere on your PC (NTFS is fine), then connect the destination drive, and restore.

    If you want to keep recordings, you'll need both the original and the destination connected at the same time (or a lot of free disk space on your PC, and a lot of time).
     
  4. AbMagFab

    AbMagFab What happened, TiVo?

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    Yes it will. If you just want SP's, you can do a truncated backup, which takes only about 1.5GB (and about 5 minutes). If you want to keep all your recordings, you'll need to do a full backup, which will take up the space of the drive (160GB) (and about 2-4 hours for the backup and 2-4 for the restore, I think, I've always done a disk-to-disk copy).

    Alternatively, if you can disconnect one of your PC drives, and connect the destination drive instead, you can do a copy from disk to disk, saving on your intirim backup space needs, and cutting the tiime almost in half.
     
  5. WANUB

    WANUB New Member

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    Can I copy off to a USB drive by having the Tivo drive on the SATA to USB and I have an external USB drive as well..

    Thank you
     
  6. AbMagFab

    AbMagFab What happened, TiVo?

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    Yup. You're in Windows, so any drive is accessible to you.

    Why not put the destination drive in the other enclosure, and do a direct copy? Unless your other USB drive is pre-packaged, not an enclosure.
     
  7. WANUB

    WANUB New Member

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    My other enclosure is older and is IDE to USB only. The SATA to USB is an adapter kit and not an enclosure...

    I am off to BestBuy to get the 1TB they have on sale for $279. From all I have read, this should be good since I can quiet it down with the Hitachi feature tool.

    Thanks for your help
     
  8. jlib

    jlib Lean Forward

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    Carmel...
    Or disconnect your second Windows drive (probably not needed for booting) and use its SATA connector and power for the other TiVo drive so both can be connected at once. Or disconnect both Windows drives and use the MFSLive boot CD with both TiVo drives on the internal SATA (no USB-SATA adapters needed then).
     
  9. WANUB

    WANUB New Member

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    Choices, choices.. :)

    Thanks folks
     
  10. WANUB

    WANUB New Member

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    Update......

    I got the new WD 1TB drive in and I can't believe how easy this was. 15 minutes and I was done... I now have 144 hours of HD and something like 1300+ hrs of SD..

    I was suprised that the WD drive is so quiet. I did not run the Hitachi tool yet. I was wondering if I can do that through SATA->USB or does the drive need to on my PCs SATA channel... My tivo is on the living room and not in a cabinet so it has plenty of ventilation so I am guessing the drive will stay cool..

    If I do need to run the Acoustic utility, can do it without losing anything or will I have to redo the whole WinMFS process?


    On a side note, a huge thank you to Spike25. Thanks for the awesome tools...

    Thank you
     
  11. jlib

    jlib Lean Forward

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    Carmel...
    Some users have reported that the hdparm Linux command method works across USB (from any Linux boot disk such as the MFSLive disk). The Feature Tool is DOS based and doesn't natively understand USB. Adjusting seek acoustics only affects the firmware of the drive and not the contents and can be done at any time. You can be the judge whether it is even important with your WD drive. Some have reported they can live with the default setting since it is already so quiet.
     
  12. richsadams

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    That's great news and thanks for the feedback. :up: I have my WD 1TB "Green" drive sitting here waiting for an internal installation on our S3...as soon as we can catch up on the backlog of shows we want to watch before I disconnect the eSATA drive. :rolleyes:

    I've already set the AAM to 128, but even as a bare drive I couldn't hear much of a difference from the factory settings. It is indeed a very quiet drive.
     
  13. cr33p

    cr33p New Member

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    I just recently purchased a WD 750 gb drive for my Tivo HD, I have come to the conclusion that I have a bad drive, will mfslive allow me to back up everything? Including cable card settings? I know that mfscopy will but Im trying to have the least amount of downtime, I will order the new replacement drive have this one backed up and ready to send back once the new one arrives.
     
  14. richsadams

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    I'm almost certain that a truncated backup will save everything. However you probably ought to ask the expert, Spike, on his forum just to be sure.

    MFSLiVe forum

    Keep us posted! :up:
     
  15. Morpheus101

    Morpheus101 New Member

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    What a breeze to make the upgrade to the Green 1TB drive. As usual I was worried more then I should have been. I usually find things much harder then what others are saying it is, but it certainly was not the case here. The only problem I had was that I did not turn off the screen saver before starting in XP and when I tried to deactivate it the Winmfs program stated it was not responding. I rebooted and disabled the screen saver and in about 45 minutes I was done.

    I now have a series II upgrade if anyone is looking for one. 2 300GB Maxtor’s, weeknees bracket, fan and cables. Remove your drive, Plug in the IDE cable, bolt the bracket in, plug the power in and you now have 600GB of storage. You will need to do the necessary software transfer and adding the second drive.
     
  16. richsadams

    richsadams Active Member

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    Congrats! :up:
     
  17. brettatk

    brettatk Thread Killer

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    I couldnt agree more. I did mine last night:


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    Took about 30 minutes to do everything. I'll see how this does me before I start thinking about connecting a 1TB esata drive. I might wait till the prices come down and just transfer programs back and forth from my pc if I have a problem with space. The only problem I ran into is the the Hitachi Feature Tool would not detect my drive so I could not lower the AAM. The drive seems very quiet right out of the wrapping so I might not even worry about it now.
     
  18. richsadams

    richsadams Active Member

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    Nice. :up: Agreed about the drive's sound level/AAM. I adjusted ours down to 128 (from 256 IIRC) and really couldn't tell much difference...it's a very quiet drive, about on par with our Seagate DB35.
     

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