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Tivo HD Finally Upgraded

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by spike2k5, Jul 30, 2007.

  1. Sep 2, 2007 #181 of 298
    aaronwt

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    Did they red flag your box like they said they did mine after I upgraded the drive? I had to exchange it for another unit that hadn't been upgraded just to get them to talk about the mono from analog channel problem the TiVoHD has. Of course they probably still haven't figured out the difference between a mono signal and a stereo signal.
     
  2. Sep 2, 2007 #182 of 298
    drew00001

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    I actually upgraded an S3, which shouldn't matter. In any case, maybe the increased speed means my original drive was dying. Pre-upgrade, the menus did not seem excessively slow, but my screen had been freezing with increased frequency.
     
  3. Sep 2, 2007 #183 of 298
    drew00001

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    huh? :confused:
     
  4. Sep 2, 2007 #184 of 298
    aaronwt

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    When you change the hard drive they know it. The info is sent to them. They know you don't have the original capacity. They told me since I had opened up my unit that they couldn't do anything about the mono sound from the analog channel problem. SO of course I exchange it for a virgin box and they still can't figure out what the difference between mono and stereo.
    They had offered to exchange my box for a $100+ fee since I opened it. I took it back to CC and exchanged it there and got rid a of perfectly good box because they don't seem to know what they are doing. At least that's what it seems like from my conversations with them.
    And then one of them made the crack about the TiVoHD not being THX certified so what do you expect. My conversations with them have really pissed me off and come across as them being incompetent.
     
  5. Sep 2, 2007 #185 of 298
    rainwater

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    This is why you keep the original drive. Just put it in, make a connection, and all will be well.
     
  6. Sep 3, 2007 #186 of 298
    aaronwt

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    Once you replace the drive they already have the data that shows the storage capacity has changed. I keep all my original drives. I put it back in when I exchanged it at Circuit City. But my second TiVoHD is finicky if it gets too strong a signal for the analog channels. The first one had no problem with my signal strength. I had to attenuate the cable signal so it wouldn't have problems with the analog channels. Which is a separate problem from the mono output from the analog channels. If I have the pixelation problem when I connect FIOS I will take it back for another exchange from CC. I got the 4 year extended warranty from them for around $50 and I plan to use it if I need to.
     
  7. Sep 3, 2007 #187 of 298
    drew00001

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    Thanks for the heads up. My box is an S3, and I haven't called TiVO since I purchased such 1 year ago. (knock on wood).
     
  8. Sep 6, 2007 #188 of 298
    CCourtney

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    Spike,

    Just to confirm, you're running the connecting up to the Internal SATA connector.

    You say it's noisy, is that because seeks or just plan noisy and is this being done with acoustic management to limit the seek noise?

    Have you found this to be reliable?

    What enclosure are you using?

    Have you tried Supersize w/ a RAID setup?

    Are you going to post these details on the Mfslive website?

    CCourtney
     
  9. Sep 6, 2007 #189 of 298
    normychas

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    dont know about details but screenshots of spikes 2.5 terabyte setup are on mfslive. I am purely curious from a how is it done stand point as i am not going to go out and snag another 2 terabytes of data on my budget. Very cool stuff though
     
  10. Sep 6, 2007 #190 of 298
    jlib

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    Those type of enclosures are just plain noisy mainly because of very noisy fans that are usually tied to an RPM sensing alarm that makes it difficult to modify the fan noise. Additionally, you now have four drives instead of one. That doesn't make it 4 times as loud but it does contribute to the total. Most manufacturers assume such devices are going to be used in a commercial environment not your living room so the designers don't really appreciate home theater use.
     
  11. Sep 6, 2007 #191 of 298
    c3

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    When any one of those four drives dies, you have a dead TiVo.
     
  12. Sep 6, 2007 #192 of 298
    CCourtney

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    The screenshots w/ the 2 and 2.5 TB appear to be w/o supersize when looking at the numbers. I'd like to know if he's tried it w/ supersize on a RAID 0 setup yet.

    Yes, I know but I want to know if his comments were because of the enclosure and fan (which I can modify) or it's because of the drives even w/ AAM usage. This is a valuable point to me.

    Of course, if one of the drives dies then you've lost your HDD setup. I wouldn't call that a dead TiVo but lost data. I'd slap the original 160GB back in and be back up in a matter of minutes.

    That said, that is not the only point of failure in such a system. The RAID controller is built into the enclosure and can be a point of failure, random data corruption pr failure of the RAID controller itself.

    I've had a few dozen drives over the years w/ heavy usage and have only had one laptop drive fail and one desktop drive fail on me (both work computers that were backed up nightly thankfully - both drives known to have had issues in the industry) but I have had controllers fail on me (going back to my 286 days when the IDE controller was an ISA card) including one in my laptop, and two desktop motherboards as well as the ISA card mentioned.

    I've had 3 DVR drives in continuous operation for the past several years w/o issue as well. So I'm not too worried about HDD failure but I am worried about the RAID controller.

    CCourtney
     
  13. Sep 6, 2007 #193 of 298
    spike2k5

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    No I have not.

    Drives are quiet w/ AAM set to 128 but fans are loud.
     
  14. Sep 8, 2007 #194 of 298
    icatar

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    I dont have any SATA ports on my PC. Has anyone used a SATA to USB cable such as this one to connect the Tivo HDD?

    Thanks in advance!
     
  15. Sep 8, 2007 #195 of 298
    spike2k5

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    Yes. Check newegg.com. It's lot cheaper.
     
  16. danator

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    I have the Seagate 750gb Db35 coming for internal drive upgrade (original 250GB), i have question for anyone with similar situation.

    I read 2 opinions on you may or may not lost Cablecard pairing information. For those who has done it. Using disk copy, did you lose prior pairing information or everything went smooth. :) ?? I'll be using WinMFS and CC are coming from TWC.

    Thanks
     
  17. SCSIRAID

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    When I took a working Tivo with the original 250 and used the Bumwine method to upgrade to a 500G Seagate, I did NOT lose the pairing information. YMMV.

    However, I saved the 250 and about 6 months later got a 1G Hitachi and again Bumwined from the 250, upon replacing the 500 in the tivo with the 1G, I DID lose pairing.
     
  18. danator

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    Interesting,

    Pairing worked for whatever existing current drive you have now but not with previous disk. That included original. Thanks

     
  19. jmpage2

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    If you do a disc copy you should not lose pairing or any other info. I certainly didn't when I upgraded the internal drive to 500GB.
     
  20. gespears

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    Hey guys and gals, I found this deal:

    http://www.resellerratings.com/forum/t129410.html

    It's the calvary 750 gig eSATA enclosure. I called Calvary's tech support and they said it's a WD drive with 16 meg and 3 gig transfer rate. I paid 188 shipped for it and am going to remove the 750 and put it in my Tivo HD and take the 500 from the Tivo HD and put it in this enclosure. I don't think the deal will last long though so act quick.

    Gary
     

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