thanks. So it's still as worthless as it was before. Basically you have to turn your Tivo into a "dumb" VCR. Absolutely stupid. The technology is there and it should be easy to do. If you're smart enough to "know" about Clear QAM, you should be able to handle the interface/mapping mechanism. In my case, time Warner cable uses the same channel numbers. ClearQam "CBS" is 18-06 and the same channel on the STB is: 1806 (the TV doesn't do 4 digit numbers without a - somewhere) It was easy for me to go into MythTV and tell it what QAM channel was what. And if some open source person in their spare time can do it, you'd think Tivo could as well.