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Tivo has crossed my line...

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by destek, May 12, 2009.

  1. May 12, 2009 #41 of 293

    scandia101 Just the facts ma'am

    Oct 20, 2007
    MN, greater...
    Yeah, he's not going anywhere.
    It took him six months to even notice these ads, so it can't be that bad.
  2. May 12, 2009 #42 of 293

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

    Apr 17, 2000
    The S2 TiVos have had these ads for a while now, but the S3 TiVos only just recently got them. In fact the software might actually still be in the process of rolling out, so he may have just got the software today for all we know.

  3. May 12, 2009 #43 of 293

    orangeboy yes, I AM orangeboy!

    Apr 19, 2004
    East Moline, IL
    How much more would we pay if there weren't ads?
  4. May 12, 2009 #44 of 293

    Kablemodem Get the ketchup.

    May 26, 2001
    I have always been a proponent of simply ignoring the ads on TiVo, but the new pop-up on pause is a little too "in your face" for me. They do cross the line for me, but I don't plan on canceling TiVo service over it, as there is no viable alternative.
  5. May 12, 2009 #45 of 293

    ZeoTiVo I can't explain

    Jan 2, 2004
    the info button may be intuitive but I am reasonably certain the pause button will have more people actually use "more about" (espeically when you consider the vast majority of users who do not read this forum) and since that will tie into the new TiVo search - then the number of people using the "more about" is the goal versus where it should intuitively be placed.
  6. May 12, 2009 #46 of 293

    rainwater Active Member

    Sep 21, 2004
    Probably not much more. TiVo still hasn't developed a ad system that is very effective yet. This is why you see ads thrown throughout the UI. Even the CEO has mentioned several times that they haven't found the one big solution. They are just throwing things against the wall and seeing what sticks.
  7. May 12, 2009 #47 of 293

    dgf123 New Member

    Nov 29, 2008
    Springfield VA
    At one time in my life I had a phonograph, an eight track player, a cassette player , a cd player , a beta max player, a VHS player, an Atari, a nintendo, a nintendo 64, a commodore computer, a replay TV, and on and on it goes.
    Some day all of us and yes even you die hard tivo fans on this site will be able to say I used to have a tivo. Tivo is a software pioneer and a seller of guide data and now they want to be a content provider. The only problem is that they want to sell content that is commercials. That is the reason most people went with tivo in the first place to avoid those annoying ads. Tivo should stick with selling software and guide data and leave the content and commercials to the TV studios. I have purchased a moxi HD dvr and I am very satisfied with it at this time I also have a cox SA8300 dvr and a series 3 tivo and a series 2 tivo. (I paid $800.00 for my series 3 and that's the same price for the Moxi.) I talked with tivo about why I was changing and was put in touch with a tivo rep who says she cares about customer feedback so all complaints should go to her Jessica --jloebig@tivo.com.
  8. May 12, 2009 #48 of 293

    chrispitude New Member

    Apr 23, 2005
    Even though advertising may be prevalent in every day life, it doesn't mean it doesn't annoy me when Tivo starts filling up my screen with it. I bought a Tivo to get away from this crap (skipping commercials).

    - Chris
  9. May 12, 2009 #49 of 293

    orangeboy yes, I AM orangeboy!

    Apr 19, 2004
    East Moline, IL
    I went with Tivo because I wanted to easily record programming that I could watch when I wanted to watch it. How do you know why most people went with Tivo? Did you ask them? You didn't ask me.
  10. May 12, 2009 #50 of 293

    spocko Member

    Feb 4, 2009
    I don't get that. You admit that "more about" is not intuitively placed, but you say that it's justified by giving greater exposure to Tivo Search. How does usage of Tivo Search directly benefit Tivo?

    The only technical motivation I can think of for having "more about" on pause is because "more about" takes you away from the program you are watching. The "Info" panel is overlaid on top of the current program while it plays, but "more about" can not be. However I would still argue that "more about" during pause is not intuitive and is poor UI design. Putting it as an option under Info is clearly more intuitive. The current program could be automatically paused if the "more about" option was selected.
  11. May 12, 2009 #51 of 293

    hongcho .

    Nov 26, 2003
    San Jose, CA
    I agree. The main reason for having a DVR for me is to not worry about if I would miss my favorite shows. Saving time while viewing the shows are the second.

  12. May 12, 2009 #52 of 293

    dgf123 New Member

    Nov 29, 2008
    Springfield VA
    I had a replay tv when it first came out and replay tv and tivos first ads were focused on skipping adds!
  13. May 12, 2009 #53 of 293

    mec1991 Cranky old coot

    Nov 5, 2004
    Back home...
    We all have different reasons why we bought TiVo in the first place. In my case I was so PO'd at trying to watch a Clint Eastwood movie back in 2001 I turned the TV off and went out, to Best Buy IIRC, and bought one within the hour. The station ran the opening credits then went to a batch of commercials, ran a little of the movie then went back to more commercials at 10 after the hour, again at 20 after the hour, and again at 30 minutes after. Can't recall if it was a local Dallas station or a cable one but I had never seen anything like that beforehand.

    So yes, for me, avoiding the over commercialization was the initial reason. I soon learned to love the season passes, wishlist feature, etc.

    Nowadays I find myself using my TiVos less and less, thanks to you guys teaching me about torrents. (A year ago I thought that only meant a lot of rain. :eek:)

    I am seriously considering purchasing the eyeTV to use with my Macbook. It's not perfect and not for everyone but I think it and torrents will suffice for my personal viewing habits.

    I wish TiVo would give me the option of no ads for say, 10 bucks a month more as I would gladly pay it. But they just don't seem interested in giving us a choice. :(
  14. May 12, 2009 #54 of 293

    bicker bUU

    Nov 9, 2003
    And how do we get more competition? Increased profit motive. In other words, more people willing to pay more.
  15. May 12, 2009 #55 of 293

    bicker bUU

    Nov 9, 2003
    Easy to claim, but there is no foundation for your ridiculous pronouncement.
  16. May 12, 2009 #56 of 293

    bicker bUU

    Nov 9, 2003
    I suppose what's more important is whether it is a good way for paying for television programs. Or would you prefer to have all broadcast television programs moved to Pay-per-View, perhaps at $1 per episode.
  17. May 12, 2009 #57 of 293

    Videodrome tivo - please wait..

    Jun 20, 2008

    Right and there will be more added soon. Samsung is do out soon, and Sony usually follows samsung , so Tivo better get there house in order.
  18. May 12, 2009 #58 of 293

    bkdtv New Member

    Jan 9, 2003
    DC Metro Area
    The advertisement on pause is easy to eliminate if you've got a universal remote like a Harmony. You simply create a pause-clear macro (Harmony calls them sequences) and stick it on the pause button. You'll never see the pause ad again.
  19. May 12, 2009 #59 of 293

    Langree The Gimp

    Apr 29, 2004
    Actually, they were focused on skipping televised comercials. TiVo does not force you to click on any of the ad banners.
  20. May 12, 2009 #60 of 293

    webin New Member

    Feb 13, 2008
    Many of us (some of us? a few of us?) agree that ads are necessary evil to improve Tivo's bottom line and help them stay in business. The real arguement I see people complaining about where ads show up. It's as if the ads are hacked into a pre-existing UI, and the result is unsightly and obtrusive.

    So let's assume Tivo is developing a new, high def user interface for the Series 4 (all pure speculation). Assuming this interface will include ads, where should they show up so as to be visible enough to attract advertisers, but not so in-your-face that the viewers complain?

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