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Tivo gets an extender!

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by mr.unnatural, Aug 24, 2012.

  1. lrhorer

    lrhorer Active Member

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    So once every thousand years you need to watch something live?

    So the storm might have suddenly jumped 200 miles to the west? You sat there without going to the bathroom or making yourself a sandwich the entire time, glued to your TV? You would have done much better to spend your time making preparations, and nothing reported on the TV was going to likely be of any immediate significance to you.

    In 54 years, I have never seen anything on TV that was urgent in terms of a necessary response on my part, and as I said before, if it is urgent, it isn't going to wait until 17:00 to happen. Generally speaking, TV news is no more current than a newspaper, and in terms of actual applicability to the individual viewer, it is never so. It is only more sensational, which is not relevant.
     
  2. lrhorer

    lrhorer Active Member

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    I can only speak for myself, but I don't look down on someone for wasting their time. I just cannot understand why they ever would.

    I don't have very many season passes, and I only fairly rarely ever set up a program. Most of the recording is selected by the TiVos, not by me. That's the point. Why waste my time doing something the TiVo can do far, far better than any human? It's like hiring a manual laborer twice your size and strength to dig a ditch and then telling him to sit down while you dig the ditch yourself.

    Quite the opposite. I think that having paid good money for the TiVo, they deserve to enjoy its benefits, rather than foolishly ignore them. Why do something 1000 times when a superior result can be obtained without ever doing it even once? Why unnecessarily tie ones' self to someone else's schedule? Why buy in to the nonsense of "prime time"? Why burden ones' self with commercials? It is all a tremendous waste of time and effort to no useful end.
     
  3. mr.unnatural

    mr.unnatural Active Member

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    I happen to have a 42" Sony monitor that was designed for POS (point of service ;) ) displays. You would program it for continuous loop displays in a bank, retail outlet, trade show, etc. It just happens to work great as an HDTV with an external tuner attached. My wife used it exclusively for watching live TV. I have since replaced the Tivo with a small form factor HTPC.

    Nonsense to you perhaps, but then your opinion isn't the final word on anything in this forum, is it? FYI , anything you watch "live" on the Tivo is being recorded in the buffer so you're always watching something while it's being recorded if it's live. FYFI, the Weather Channel is on 24/7 and provides regular updates. I can't recall the last time I even watched a weather forecast on a local station. Recording a weather broadcast is a ridiculous waste of time considering there are numerous other ways to get up to the minute weather. If all you're looking for is the 5-day forecast then recording is certainly an option. I can get all that on my smartphone without having to turn on the TV or schedule a recording.

    Just because you think everything on TV needs to be recorded doesn't mean the rest of us are forced to follow your lead.
     
  4. scandia101

    scandia101 Just the facts ma'am

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    Your needs are not universal. What the weather channel or any app have to offer is very different and very much lacking the detail offered by a local tv station's meteorologist. You may not want the details, but other people do.
     
  5. mr.unnatural

    mr.unnatural Active Member

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    I'm not disputing that at all. OTOH, I can get weather forecasts in 15-minute increments over about a 36-48 hour period on the Weather Channel website for my zip code. I can also get local weather and satellite or radar reports of weather conditions from my local TV station's website in real time instead of having to wait for the 6 o'clock news report (or schedule a recording of same). The point of the conversation was that some people like to watch live TV for very specific reasons. I was just citing a current weather report under extreme circumstances as one of those instances. Perhaps a better example would have been the live coverage of 9/11 or some other event that would not have allowed lead time to set up a recording in advance. There was so much coverage of that event that recording it was completely unnecessary since you would get a complete recap of the events plus the current status just about any time you tuned to a cable news channel. I'm pretty sure most network programming was also preempted to cover the story.
     
  6. tootal2

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    I just got a ceton echo extender for my wmc computer:)
     
  7. tootal2

    tootal2 Active Member

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    I didn't replace my TiVo with a small htpc. I replaced it with a big gaming system. with three 200mm fans. I play black ops 2 on it at 1080p at over 100 frames per second and record TV and use my ceton echo at the same time:)



     
  8. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    How do you pause it, FF and Rew?
     
  9. jamesjones_det

    jamesjones_det New Member

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    This is one ignorant ass response. For one sports are a great reason to watch something live along with things live centric (the weather channel for one). To add to that why shouldn't TiVo support both live and record steaming? Nothing says you have to waste a tuner when you aren't live streaming.

    Just because you don't do or like something something one way doesn't mean you are right. Stop being so ignorant and think for one minute.
     
  10. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Even in it's current incarnation the TiVo software has a way to set the number of tuners available to Minis to 0, so if someone doesn't watch live TV they can turn it off and their TiVo will have all available tuners for recording. So even if the Mini was released today, and was exactly as described by all the pieces we've been told by various sources, the only real limitation would be the 4 tuner host requirement.

    I think the main reason for the delay is because of that host requirement. Releasing a device that requires a 4 tuner TiVo would be a bit confusing to consumers. My guess is they are going to release as-is to cable operators, since they can control what type of TiVo the user has, and then hold off on the retail release until dynamic tuner allocation is available. Then they can eliminate the 4 tuner host requirement and market it as a Premiere accessory.

    Then again this is all speculation. The last time we heard anything official about the Mini was a long time ago, so who knows what state it's in now or why they've really delayed it. We'll likely have a better idea of what's going on after CES.

    Dan
     
  11. aaronwt

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    Sports is the last thing I want to watch live. Way too many commercials. It's much better when you shift sports 1 to 1.5 hours after the start so the commmercials can be easily skipped.

    Now the weather is something I watch live, but it's a PITA to watch sports live because of all the commercials.
     
  12. button1066

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    Sports events have so many commercials because most people prefer to watch sports live...and by 'most people' I mean, let's face it, practically everybody. They don't show commercials in lieu of action on the field and even if they did you still wouldn't be able to watch it.

    Watching recorded sports and fast forwarding them is just...perverse. Why not just find out the result on your phone and save yourself even more time by not bothering to watch them at all? Come on, you don't actually like sports do you?

    How about...set up your IOS devices to stream multiple live sports events via TiVo Stream and have them set up on your coffee table. Adverts and everything. That would probably be your vision of Hell.

    The arguments over live TV on TiVo in this thread are so asinine they can only be treated as comedy. The one butt hurt troglodyte who seems to be begging for acknowledgement about never, ever watching live TV is the epitome of a tivocommunity *****.
     
  13. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    By that logic watching any live event recorded is "perverse". You could say the same thing about American Idol or the series finale of Survivor, yet many, many people watch those recorded.

    Also if you simply time shift sports by an hour or so you will typically catch up to live before the end of the game, so you don't actually spoil the results you just speed up the amount of time it takes to get to the conclusion. If you feel it's "cheating" not watching every play as it happens in real life then that's a personal thing. But it's really no more effective then wearing your lucky jersey or not changing your socks at effecting the outcome of the game.

    Dan
     
  14. jrtroo

    jrtroo Chill- its just TV

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    Timeshifting sports is one of the best ways to minimize couch time and maximize time actually doing things. Each their own, but spending 1 hr vs 3+ hrs getting through a NFL commercialfest is agony.
     
  15. button1066

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    Watching sports live is not the same as watching American Idol (which isn't even a live show is it? Maybe the final episode is live, I don't know or even care).

    I do think watching recorded versions of live shows is weird. What's the point of it being live one would wonder?
     
  16. button1066

    button1066 New Member

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    One man's agony is another man's perfect Sunday afternoon. I am a season ticket holder to my local NFL team and can confirm that even in the stadium you will be subjected to advertisements ad nauseum.

    It's sport. People like it. It's not that big of a deal.

    Another argument waiting to happen: I like watching live news. A lot. The horror! I could be doing so many more interesting things...
     
  17. steve614

    steve614 what ru lookin at?

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    Most of the time, I don't care what the result is. I'm only interested in the action.
    In my view, watching sports live and having to sit through commercials is just...perverse. We're only talking about a 'delayed viewing' here, not recording and watching the next day.

    Take football. On Sunday, I start recording both early games (OTA only here) and do something else for an hour. Then I start watching game #1. When I catch up to live TV, I switch to game #2. Catch up there, I switch back to game #1, etc., etc.

    So, it turns out that I can watch both games almost in the same amount of time it would take for me to watch one game live.

    By this time, games #3 & #4 have started recording, and the process is repeated.

    Yeah, I must not like sports that much. :rolleyes:
     
  18. button1066

    button1066 New Member

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    That would work I guess. Just stay off the Internet while you're watching the games. The problem is that sports is played in real time. It loses a lot when fast forwarded and instead might as well be edited highlights. My opinion. I like the tension of a game and the slow progress through all quarters.

    Either way it does not seem to be a reason for people to write nasty comments at each other just based on their preferred viewing habits. Not that you have done this but others earlier in the thread certainly have.
     
  19. steve614

    steve614 what ru lookin at?

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    You're not supposed to FF the game footage, only the commercials. You FF the game footage only if you care about the result.
     
  20. mattack

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    That's funny, because one of the Engadget HD guys, who seems to hate commercials ALMOST as much as I do, can't watch sports delayed enough to skip the commercials.
     

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