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TiVo Exits the Hardware Business

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by rainwater, Jan 22, 2014.

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    Tobashadow

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    Well that makes it interesting, kinda turns me off on upgrading my S2's now.
     
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    mr.unnatural

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    Interesting. Tivo's been hinting at this for quite some time but it looks like they're finally making the move. Looks like if you want a Tivo that you don't have to rent from your provider or one of their boxes with the Tivo software you'd better get 'em while they're hot. The good news is that I see the resale value of real Tivos getting better down the road.
     
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    sbourgeo

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    Wow, that's odd considering they just released the Roamio. Kinda sad... :(
     
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    BigJimOutlaw

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    Yikes. I guess I'm glad they released the Roamio first, and we won't have to be stuck with Premieres.

    Raises huge questions though... it's not like all that many providers are or will adopt Tivo software. So what's the end game? Strip cost centers for a viable suitor?
     
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    Philmatic

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    We're likely looking at something similar to the Series 2 where other manufacturers can make boxes to TiVo's specifications and just have the TiVo software installed on it.

    I am still pretty shocked by this announcement, so much for a refreshed TiVo Mini. :(
     
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    sbourgeo

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    It would be great if they had hardware partners lined up to produce retail hardware. I don't see myself going to a cloud-based DVR from my cable company any time soon, that's for sure.
     
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    Philmatic

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    Thy have at least 2-3 years to line those manufacturers up, I'm not too worried.
     
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    randian

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    This is rather shocking. I figured I would keep my Basic for quite a while, now I wonder if I should take the loss on resale and buy a Plus or Pro to future proof myself (and stave off having to get a cableco dvr). This makes the big discounts so soon after release more understandable.

    This is likely to negatively impact resale values. As cmeinck notes, I worry for my Lifetime sub now too.
     
  10. Jan 22, 2014 #10 of 122
    cmeinck

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    The great thing about where TiVo was headed (Roamio+TiVo mini), customers could cut their monthly carrier costs. I pay Verizon $5 a month now for one cable card. Companies like Verizon and Comcast aren't interested in lowering your fees. If anything, this will be a lesser version of TiVo at a premium price over standard DVR pricing. TiVo leaving hardware doesn't give them much leverage.

    I hope they are around long enough, so that my lifetime service doesn't get impacted.
     
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    rainwater

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    I think the almost billion dollars they have in the bank will assure they are around for quite a while longer.
     
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    bradleys

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    They laid off three people and are focussing on a different line. If the decide the need a refreshed retail model, the can either outsource or bring in new talent.

    The Roamio will have at least a three year shelf life, and it is obvious that TiVo feels the dynamic is changing.

    Most likely assuming they will not be able to compete with the cost basis of a cloud based DVR offering.
     
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    aridon

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    Not sure how they expect to compete with a cloud based DVR with bandwidth caps.
     
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    SNJpage1

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    It makes more sense for them to do this. Let some one else make the boxes and then let them buy the rights to put Tivo's software into them.
     
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    randian

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    Cloud DVRs are a horrible idea. The lag and jitter would make for a lousy experience. That must be why cablecos like the idea.
     
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    FACTAgent

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    ...they really need to reach out their subscribers with some kind of info instead of letting the media and rumor / speculation fill the information vacuum.

    Cloud DVR is not viable for me due to data caps (they're probably coming) and the end of Net Neutrality, but, most of all, my desire for the speed, availability and control that is only possible with local storage.

    I doubt Cablevision will partner with them since they are so invested in their cloud DVR, which has not received great user reviews.

    When my Tivos eventually die, if Tivo has not lined up an independent HW vendor by then, I will probably move to Windows Media Center if it's still around or even ditch cable for satellite just to get local DVR storage....
     
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    BigJimOutlaw

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    Their cloud-based DVR service would be run by the cableco's. Not available as a retail service. Caps wouldn't apply for those select few who will ever actually use it.
     
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    russg

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    So they are going to focus on the software. I can't say that's surprising really. The hardware has gotten to a fairly mature level these days and they can easily just get systems built by another company if they want more hardware.
     
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    Aero 1

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    Damn. I was going to wait a year before I go to the roamio for OTA only, now I have no idea how long they are going to keep the current line in retail.
     

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