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TiVo confirms SDV dongle for 2Q 2008

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by cwoody222, Nov 26, 2007.

  1. Nov 26, 2007 #1 of 456
    cwoody222

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    CrispyCritter

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    Thanks for posting the link! Very nice news for lots of people. It seems like a very short timeframe, though, given cable companies past adherence to deadlines. But perhaps it will be a smoother deployment than I think.
     
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    SeanC

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    I don't understand why this isn't going to be sold as an accessory? Why force users to rent it from the cable company for yet another surcharge?
     
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    dig_duggler

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    Nice. Now if they can just stick to the deadline.
     
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    RoyK

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    It appears to me from the article that TiVo isn't the developer.
     
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    bizzy

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    I wonder if this will work for PPV content as well?
     
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    mikeyts

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    One reason would be because the various cable providers use different proprietary protocols for SDV. As I understand it, there are three in use already. It's the same deal with the CableCARDs themselves--a Moto CableCARD isn't going to work on an SA system.

    Sheesh--we've just been saved from the potential bricking of our investment in Series3 TiVos and people are already complaining about the solution :rolleyes:.
     
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    ncbagwell

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    So did we ever figure out if this will allow you to do OnDemand stuff as well or does it just fix the SDV problem?
     
  9. Nov 26, 2007 #9 of 456
    NSPhillips

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    Seems like that would be a better incentive for the cable companies to support it. They can probably make more money on OnDemand than offering a few extra channels.
     
  10. Nov 26, 2007 #10 of 456
    mikeyts

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    Access to VOD and IPPV could be added with a similar approach--an expansion of the capabilities of the dongle would do it. The content providers like to have presentation control for those channels, though. How do you specify the fancy background graphics, deep menu structure and inset video of the typical subscription VOD channel through a dongle?

    They could come up with some generic menu presentation where they just downloaded the simple text for the menu tree and action codes to be returned to the system for end-node selections. It could include a QAM frequency and program number for the appropriate video stream to be displayed in inset. HBO-On-Demand would look identical to Cinemax-On-Demand, but it would only be for a small subset of customers using these dongles and it would better serve those customers, making subscription to the premium tiers more enticing. It would also open up a profit opportunity in Impulse Pay-Per-View and Pay-Per-Viewing-Period VOD.
     
  11. Nov 26, 2007 #11 of 456
    ldudek

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    Yep, that's always a concern. Cable companies are not exactly known for reaching speculated goals. Even TiVo has a problem with that from time to time and since this a joint effort it may be more then a bit of concern.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm overjoyed by this news. I'm willing to pay whatever the cable company charges me. And that's a problem in itself -- they probably know that.

    Let's just all hope for some fairness in price and a timely distribution.
     
  12. Nov 26, 2007 #12 of 456
    mikeyts

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    In the announcement, I wonder whose "Fiscal Year" they're talking about. We're in the the U.S. Government's 1QFY08, now--hopefully they're referring to the government 2QFY08, which begins in January.
     
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    ldudek

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    Well, hope springs eternal but I get the feeling it ain't going to happen quite that quick. I think they are saying second quarter of 2008 which would put it in the April, May, June slot.

    But I'm hoping your right.:)

    :up: on your sig.:D
     
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    dswallow

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    I'm wondering what announcement you're reading that mentions fiscal quarters.

     
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    pl1

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    Maybe they also see the benefits for them like PPV revenue.
     
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    pl1

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    There is no reason to expect it wouldn't. SDV, PPV and VOD all require two-way communications.
     
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    Kablemodem

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    There is no reference to anyone's fiscal year in the article. It says "second quarter of 2008," which means April - June.
     
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    bizzy

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    Sure. But they talk to very different systems back at the MSO.
     
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    dswallow

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    Somewhere in all these discussions, it was stated that SDV is the only thing it's intended to address, at least initially. When you get into PPV and VOD you start needing to deal with much more information such as a directory of programming, costs and authorization methods, plus you have to deal with authorizations that may occur outside the receiver (buying PPV by phone, for instance), so I wouldn't go holding my breath that they'll address any of that the first time around.
     
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    ldudek

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    I could care less about PPV. If I want a movie there is Amazon.com. There is nothing else I would even think about as far as PPV.
     

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