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TiVo Coming To Roku?!

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by bradleys, Jan 15, 2014.

  1. atmuscarella

    atmuscarella Active Member

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    I personally wish the 2 companies would merge and offer the best of both worlds including:

    1. A DVR with all the streaming ablities of a Roku and DVR functionality of a TiVo.
    2. A stand alone streaming device that provide all the streaming abilities of a Roku and all the functions of a Mini.
    3. A stand alone blu-ray player that provide all the streaming abilities of a Roku and all the functions of a Mini.
    4. Software for TV manufactures that provide all the streaming abilities of a Roku and all the functions of a Mini.
    Then we would have something :D.

    Given I don't think that will ever happen, I think TiVo would be better off spending the time & money this would cost on actually having their Roamio DVRs provide as close as possible to as good/complete of a streaming experience as a Roku.
     
  2. slowbiscuit

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    Not following the logic here, a simple.TV box is still way cheaper than a lifetime Basic. And for OTA folks looking to cheap out in every way possible, that means something.
     
  3. atmuscarella

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    A dual tuner simple TV with lifetime is $400 + the cost of a hard drive. So if someone wants/needs more than 2 tuners a Roamio + 3TB drive + lifetime will be cheaper. If the Roamio worked with a Roku the same as a simple TV did why wouldn't it be major competition?
     
  4. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

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    Again, it's cheaper and that's all that matters to this crowd - tuner count etc. is irrelevant. You've been over in the HDTV Recorders section of AVS, so you know there's a distinct minority there that hates Tivo and wants to get a nice OTA DVR for as little money as possible, even when we say it's not possible based on what they want to pay.
     
  5. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    Tuner count is hardly irrelevant. To compare Apples to Apples you have to compare the same tuner counts. So to have four tuners with each device, which costs less?
     
  6. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

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    I said 'cheaper is all that matters to this crowd'.
     
  7. HarperVision

    HarperVision TiVo's Italian Cuz!

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    You're not taking into account the numerous used Premieres out there being sold with lifetime. I have both simple.tv and a roamio, believe me, if TiVo had a Roku channel, simple.tv would definitely feel it!
     
  8. atmuscarella

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    Yes there will always be people who want a DVR for next to nothing. Basically they are irrelevant, as no company is going to bother with them because selling stuff at a loss isn't very good business.

    That said simple TV DVRs are not next to nothing $400 for dual tuner unit with lifetime service, another $100+/- for a USB hard drive, & another $50-$100 for a Roku. Which is $550-$600 so how is that any different than a Roamio with lifetime? In the end I still think most people are more interested in getting the feature set they want and will pay a few dollars more for something that gives it to them versus something that doesn't. There are good reason someone might want a simple TV setup instead of a Roamio but it really isn't just price and why if TiVo had a Roku app it would provide more competition to simple TV setups.

    Sure if all someone wants is a single tuner without real guide data you can get into something for allot less but with the Price of Series 3/ TiVo HD units with lifetime dropping to around $200 you can still get a TiVo for about the same money.

    There are several good alternatives for OTA DVRs, including the up coming Channel Master, Simple TV setups, HTPC setups and various TiVos. Competition is good and I hope they all fight hard for market share.
     
  9. HarperVision

    HarperVision TiVo's Italian Cuz!

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    You just contradicted yourself and made the point. You just said why get simple.tv when Roamio is similar in cost, then go on to say why if TiVo had a Roku app would it be competition for simple.tv. Ummmmmm, because its a better experience, similar in cost and also would have a Roku channel (if released).


    Simple.tv has a dual tuner and you just referenced it in the first quote above. Also there's nothing wrong with their guide data. Series 3's don't and won't connect with minis and probably won't take advantage of the Roku channel, so it's moot in this discussion. Plus if you want to add additional TVs you'd need a mini, so it would have to be a premiere4 or above, but with Roku channel you only need another cheap Roku.

    TiVo Roamio Basic w/ Lifetime: $550
    ATSC Antenna: $50-100
    2 Roku 3: $180
    Total = $780-830 out the door with the only monthly fees being streaming services like Netflix and Hulu+, etc.
    That also takes into account you don't own many of those devices already like antenna, Roku, hard drives, etc. I personally do so its even cheaper for me and probably many others.
     
  10. atmuscarella

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    The point I was trying to make was the price isn't much different one way or the other, but there are different features with a Simple TV versus a TiVo setup that might be just as import to many as the price difference in deciding which way to go.


    You can/could buy single tuner simple TVs and other brands of tuners that allow you to attach a hard drive and use them as a VCR style DVR without any guide data. My point here was that even at this rock bottom price point you will still spend as much as a used Series 3/TiVo HD with lifetime so even at the very low end there are TiVo options that are price competitive.

    I guess my over all point is that some people try to say that TiVos cost allot more than other options for OTA DVRs. My opinion is that is a false representation of what is available. While I don't think TiVos are cheap or a price leader they are price competitive when you compare obtaining a similar feature set and any increase in TiVo's feature set (like adding a Roku channel) would make them even more competitive.
     
  11. slowbiscuit

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    We agree on this forum that Tivos are not necessarily more expensive especially when you consider used market, but there's a significant number of people that have been put off by Tivo's fee scheme and refuse to consider them. Logic has no bearing here, and companies like simple.TV will appeal to that crowd at a (somewhat) lower retail price. That's all I was trying to say.
     

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