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TiVo and Nintendo's Wii U

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by innocentfreak, Sep 13, 2012.

  1. anthonymoody

    anthonymoody New Member

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    The thing that most confuses me is that unless the tvii can somehow suck in the programming from the TiVo (or cable DVRs, which are also referenced in some of the TiVo announcements) I don't get how the tvii is going to handle switching inputs on my receiver, handling on/off duty, etc. unless they also build in some smart remote stuff, Harmony style.
     
  2. jrtroo

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    At $300, its only $50 more than the wii was initially. So while its competing against ps3/xbox, and the wii itself, as the only new kid on the block it should do well, at least initially.
     
  3. morac

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    The more I think about this, the less it seems the more confusing it becomes. Technically the Wii U is more than capable of playing the MPEG-2 and H.264 video that the TiVo records. The issue is the encryption.

    I'm not sure if TiVo changed this recently or not, but the way encryption used to work is that the encryption was based off the TSN and a built in hardware key. TiVos on an account can decrypt video from TiVos on the same account because they fetch the TSN and keys during the service call. Basically this means that every TiVo box on your account knows about every other TiVo box on your account. This is also true for the TiVo Stream.

    For the Wii U to support native streaming it would need to know the decryption keys, hence it would need to make service calls into TiVo HQ. That doesn't seem likely.

    On the other hand, TiVo boxes are capable of re-encrypting the video with the MAK. That's how TiVo Desktop works. The Wii U could easily support MAK encrypted video, but I don't believe that it's possibly to stream said video (since TiVo Desktop does not stream).

    So I'm very curious as to what the Wii U actually supports and how they are doing it.


    As for the Wii U itself. Reports are that it is at least as powerful as the PS3 which isn't surprising since it's been 5 years since the PS3 has been released. The Wii U has 2 GB of RAM, with 1 GB just for the OS and 1 GB for games. That's more than both the PS3 and XBox360. It also has a much newer graphics card. It supports external hard drives to store game downloads. According to developers the Wii U runs games better than the PS3 or 360. All that while maintaining backwards compatibility with the Wii. I expect Nintendo fans will eat this thing up.
     
  4. aaronwt

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    So if the WiiU is bascially on par with the 360/PS3. I wonder howerful the new systems from Microsoft and Sony will look like?

    For the WiiU if someone like Gamestop has a generous trade in offer for the Wii system then I would probably get one. But I haven't heard about any deals like that so I'll wait until next year before I consider getting a WiiU.
     
  5. davezatz

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    I stopped by yesterday and they said they'd give me a generous trade in offer for my iPhone, but I kind of doubt it... (I had a Wii once, but only kept it a few weeks. My niece (11) and nephew (4) have one they never use, preferring Xbox and Kinect).
     
  6. slowbiscuit

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    Yes, but people were predicting that it would come out at $200 or so and were very surprised to see it going this high. I'm sure Nintendo fanboys will eat this up, but how many are left now and is it enough to sustain them? I don't think your average mom and dad is going to want to shell out this kind of money in this economy when the Wii still works for the kids.
     
  7. innocentfreak

    innocentfreak Active Member

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    I think they are giving $50 for the Wii.
     
  8. cwoody222

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    I watched some of the interviews last night on Cnet and there's nothing at all said by Nintendo to even hint at streaming or playing video aside - specifically, mentioned - movie trailers.

    This is nothing more than a glorified IR-blasting touchscreen, tablet-sized, remote control.

    There's not even any evidence that it'll have info on, say, your Now Playing List or To Do List.

    The "TiVo integration" I think is nothing more than something like the i.TV app does which is schedule recordings for you.

    From where I'm sitting this is a huge non-announcement. And the support for other cable co boxes and DVRs? Vaporware.

    I'm a huge Nintendo fan but this will probably be a big skip for me.
     
  9. davezatz

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    That's occurred to me... but I'm optimistic. Perhaps unrealistically? Hm.
     
  10. anthonymoody

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    But the weird thing about the record screen (first picture) is that it's basically a combined 'record this episode + create season pass' in one interface. (Though the middle/right buttons seem to correspond to "New episodes" and "All episodes (including duplicates)", respectively.)
     
  12. morac

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    Actually that's very informative since it sounds like Nintendo is simply branding and using I.TV. That's likely where the TiVo partnership comes from since I.TV is already partnered with TiVo. If it is just a rebranded I.TV, then it won't do streaming.
     
  13. aadam101

    aadam101 Tell me a joke

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    What is I.TV?
     
  14. morac

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  15. ufo4sale

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    When is the WiiU suppose to come out?
     
  16. SullyND

    SullyND L:45-21 TCF Club

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    I wonder if this isn't related to the DLNA news from last week?
     
  17. ufo4sale

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    it's november 18th incase anyone else wants to know.
     
  18. trip1eX

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    Sounding more and more like a wasted feature. Ah well.

    It would have conflicted with the trojan horse feature of the Wii U anyway. The ability to kick your kid off the tv and onto the controller so you can watch your TiVo show on your biggest screen.

    Still hold out some hope though. Engadget said Nintendo wouldn't allow photographs of the back side of the Wii U. Maybe they want to hide some a/v input ports. :cool:
     
  19. trip1eX

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    Kids want new stuff in case you forgot. :D

    $300 is a lot. Now should I buy the $800 TiVo xl4 or the $500 Premiere? ;)
     
  20. Johncv

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    If info from the “rumorvurse” is correct new systems from Micro$ and Sony will not be out real soon. Both are rumor to use the same off the shelf chipset and video card and Micro$ will add a blu-ray drive the new Xbox. So both systems will be more or less the “same”. Both systems will NOT be backward compatible. New games will be “tied” to the system it loaded onto and cannot be re-sold when your done with the game. If all turn out to be true I don’t see many gamer buying the new systems.
     

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