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Time Warner Cable May Drop CBS From Its TV Lineup

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by PCurry57, Jul 19, 2013.

  1. Aug 4, 2013 #61 of 191
    Inundated

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    Confirmed here in Northeast Ohio, where CBS.com streaming no longer works on Time Warner Internet service.

    We're not one of the affected TV markets. Our CBS affiliate is owned by Raycom, and is on TWC's video service with no problem. (They have a dispute that has them off Dish Network, but that's another story entirely.)

    tv.com (CBS video app) on my Android phone doesn't stream anything with TWC-fed WiFi, but does on the phone's 4G connection with WiFi off.
     
  2. Aug 4, 2013 #62 of 191
    Edmund

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    I thought cbs was back, until I realized they were showing starz kids/family in its spot.
     
  3. Aug 4, 2013 #63 of 191
    jsmeeker

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    They are doing this in Dallas too. Of course, it's not HD. It's SD that's been zoomed in. :rolleyes:

    Gee, thanks Time Warner. Eff you.


    And you to CBS.
     
  4. Aug 4, 2013 #64 of 191
    javabird

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    I'm not personally affected since I have Comcast, but this still really upsets me, and I hope it doesn't become a trend. Why should this bickering cause the subscribers to suffer a loss of service? I'm not a lawyer, but wouldn't this be considered a breach of contract? (i.e, subscribers have a contractual agreement for which they are receiving a service.)
     
  5. Aug 4, 2013 #65 of 191
    unitron

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    Apparently those of us who wound up with Earthlink when our local mom and pop got bought out and can only get it over cable via TWC are also screwed watching anything from CBS online even though we can still get the local CBS broadcast affiliate (not a CBS O&O) via cable, so I hope nothing pre-empts their soaps before this gets straightened out or I'm going to have to explain to my mom why she can't catch it online either.
     
  6. Aug 4, 2013 #66 of 191
    brianric

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    Why not go through Tor? Wouldn't Tor hide the fact to CBS that you have TW as internet provider?
     
  7. Aug 4, 2013 #67 of 191
    Inundated

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    Here's what I get with TWC Internet service:

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    TWC cable service here, too, but I'm nowhere near any of the affected CBS O&O markets. Our affiliate (Raycom's WOIO/19) is just fine with TWC cable, carriage wise.
     
  8. Aug 5, 2013 #68 of 191
    LoadStar

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    The local affiliate has been forced to start running ads telling people that the Time Warner-CBS conflict doesn't affect them, all because of CBS's ham-handed propaganda that doesn't distinguish O&O stations from affiliates.
     
  9. Aug 5, 2013 #69 of 191
    Inundated

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    I successfully used the Tor browser (self-contained) to hide my TWC origins. But it said it needed Flash Player installed.

    The Tor browser looks like a different version of Firefox, but I don't know if just running Vidalia and Firefox (the installed version I have) would work, or if more configuration would be needed.
     
  10. Aug 5, 2013 #70 of 191
    Edmund

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    With the local CH9 blocked, you think the espn telecast of the Dodgers Monday will be available to those effected?
     
  11. Aug 5, 2013 #71 of 191
    Steveknj

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    The person who obtains the program illegally and gets caught of course!!

    I'm assuming that by cable you mean pay providers including satellite and fiber?

    Unless you want to go the illegal route, I'd bet there will be a time when the Neflix's and Hulu's and other online content providers will be fighting the same fight (and yes, I know Hulu is owned by some of the networks....for now).
     
  12. Aug 5, 2013 #72 of 191
    Steveknj

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    Unfortunately, it IS a trend. As most broadcast networks move away from "must carry" to transmission fees to rake in more bucks, we are seeing this more and more. It's been a trend for years with cable channels and more recently the broadcast nets. I can't think of a provider in my area that hasn't gone through any of this with some channel or another.
     
  13. Aug 5, 2013 #73 of 191
    LoadStar

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    Almost definitely, since you can still get channel 9, just not on cable, therefore the blackout rules still apply.
     
  14. Aug 5, 2013 #74 of 191
    JYoung

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    I'm not sure why Time Warner thinks this is an adequate substitute.
     
  15. Aug 5, 2013 #75 of 191
    TAsunder

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    I am sure they are bluffing, but it would be fun to see how things played out if Time Warner indeed went with an a la carte option for these CBS stations!
     
  16. Aug 5, 2013 #76 of 191
    lpwcomp

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    It would also be interesting to see what would happen if TWC just went bnack to carrying these local CBS affiliates, perhaps putting a "reasonable" fee in an escrow account. (Personally, I don't think they should have to pay anything to carry a local OTA station, as long as they transmit it as is and don't insert their own adds. I don't see how the station can claim that they are harmed since it provides access to their programming and advertising to people in their viewing area who might have antenna reception problems.)
     
  17. Aug 5, 2013 #77 of 191
    DevdogAZ

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    The network has the choice of requiring that the cable provider carry their programming, in which case there is no fee. The other choice is if the network demands a retransmission fee, then they've waived the "must carry" requirement and they can withhold their programming from anyone until they're paid an amount they feel is fair. In this case, CBS has elected the second option, so the "must carry" status no longer applies and as far as a cable provider is concerned, CBS is no different than ESPN or History or Discovery.

    So I don't think TWC could retransmit the CBS signal and just put what they think is a reasonable amount into escrow. Either there is an agreement stating what TWC's rights are and the amount they have to pay, or there is no agreement and then TWC has no legal right to retransmit the CBS signal, just like a cable co. couldn't transmit ESPN's content without a valid agreement with ESPN.
     
  18. Aug 5, 2013 #78 of 191
    lpwcomp

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    There is absolutely no valid comparison between cable only ESPN and something available OTA. It would be an interesting civil court case. How exactly can the local affiliate prove a tort? In fact, if I were an attorney, I would consider filing a class action suit on behalf of viewers in the area who, for one reason or another, can only receive the signal via cable. I would also consider asking the FCC to re-examine the regulations that allow this sort of unconscionable extortion.
     
  19. Aug 5, 2013 #79 of 191
    aindik

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    Wouldn't the affiliate be in breach of its contract with CBS if it did something like this?
     
  20. Aug 5, 2013 #80 of 191
    GoHalos

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    This has apparently been good for Aereo:

    CBS blackout puts start-up Aereo in the spotlight

     

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