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Thoughts on Xbox One & Tivo

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by Ron DeGumbia, May 21, 2013.

  1. muzzymate

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    I'm OTA-only using a Tivo Premiere. Is the OneGuide smart enough to display OTA channels?
     
  2. JosephB

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    Yep. When you set it up you just provide your zip code. It then gives you all the options you'd see if you were checking your listings on Zap2It

    One thing that is a problem, though, is that you can't combine two lineups. So, if you're doing OTA + Cable on a Premiere or TiVo HD, you won't be able to have the OTA channels in the lineup.
     
  3. Anthos

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    I just hooked my Xbox one to the premier 4, everything works nicely. I can't wait to play around with it later tonight.
     
  4. supasta

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    My connection to my Premiere 4 initially had issues. It turns out the problem was the Amazon Basics HDMI cable. The original HDMI cable supplied with my TiVo works perfectly!
     
  5. mikeyts

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    I'm going to get an HDMI splitter so that I can play with it, though I doubt that I'll want to burn the power to run the Xbox just to be able to use OneGuide. The NFL app looks pretty cool but I'm not into football.
     
  6. supasta

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    Great idea. I need to look into a splitter as well.
     
  7. dbtom

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    I ran component to my TV and hdmi to my Xbox one so I could watch TiVo without using the Xbox and keep the Xbox TV functionality. I am not running a high end video system so it works pretty well for me. I am actually finding the voice command pretty useful so I am using it more than I expected.
     
  8. speedz

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    A cable change to the one in the Xbox One Box worked for me solving my problems too. The cable on the HDMI out from the Xbox one to the TV did the trick.

    The Xbox one integration with my Tivo S3 is working MUCH better than I had anticipated.
     
  9. Anthos

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    I've decided to unhook the xbox from my tivo premier for now. Two things are bothering me, their is no pass through function as long as the xbox is off and I don't want to leave it on all the time. Second, I'm getting lag freezes when I go from a recording to live tv. I'm sure that can get fixed via a patch, but the leaving it on function isn't going to fly with me.
     
  10. supasta

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    I have unhooked my Premiere rom the Xbox One as well. I agree that I do not need the Xbox on all the time in order to watch TV, and until there is deeper integration with TiVo (fingers crossed), most of the TiVo functions remain unusable by voice command.
     
  11. MarkEvans

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    Not getting the lag from recordings to live Tv, I have to say that XB1 & Tivo perfect combination.
     
  12. speedz

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    I understand the concern about leaving the Xbox One on just to watch TV. I share it, but am hopeful as their whole "entertainment" approach to the XB1 design should have presumed everyone would have it on much more often accordingly...

    I have not had any freeze or lag issues. I had problems turning it back on after on Standby until I changed the HDMI out cable to the one provided in the Xbox packaging as noted in prior posts.

    I can rewind, forward, pause, change channels, etc. all via voice. For anything one might need on occasion, you simply pick up the normal Tivo remote and it works like normal too! I can even say "xbox turn off" and my receiver, tv, and xbox all magically turn off together..."xbox on" does the reverse as well.

    It was nice playing Fifa 14 and having NFL playing at the same time on top of all the voice commands.

    My wife is very impressed with this setup as well. Good plus :)

    While it may not be perfect yet, this is a great foundation and I am sure they will fix most issues/concerns with patches in the future.

    To clarify: I am using a Tivo S3 for comparison
     
  13. gamo62

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    I haven't been able to get the control to work on the Roamio. I am using an RF remote, but it also takes IR codes as well.

    Suggestions?
     
  14. aaronwt

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    I have 5.1 DD from my Roamio BAsic working on the input of the XBOne. The problem with the XBOne is the PCm output. It is not set to dynamically change based on the input. So with 7.1 pcm output selected, everything is output in a 7.1 wrapper. So 5.1 input from the Roamio results in two dead channels. Stereo input from the Roamio results in all channels dead but the FL and FR since no post processing can be applied. And this is also the case for any of the apps that have stereo or 5.1 audio. The only solution right now is to manually change the XBOne output between 2.0, 5.1 and 7.1 depending on the content I'm watching so I can match the number of channels that the content has. Hopefully they enable the output to dynamically change at some point like it should be.

    But otherwise it's certainly nice to be able to quickly switch between things using Kinect. Kinect has been almost flawless in my use. And the times it's messed up has been because I wasn't saying the full title name or I was try to say a command that didn't exist. Even when I turn the volume up way past a level I would normally use, I can just say something in a normal voice and the XBOne will respond.
     
  15. JosephB

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    Having the Xbox One on all the time while you watch TV is the whole point of the integration. Microsoft wants you to be able to seamlessly flip between watching TV and a game. It's so that if you're vegging out in front of the TV, and a friend hops on, you will be able to see and can join them in a game, etc.
     
  16. gamo62

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    So, how do you manually change it to get DD?
     
  17. Grakthis

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    I don't think I'd say "almost flawless." For example, it sometimes struggles with background noise, and lots of the apps haven't fully implemented voice control. I got stuck in a spot on Amazon Instant Video where I HAD to use a controller to do something. And the voice commands themselves are not intuitive... you have to actually take the time to LEARN what voice commands do what. It would be nice if they were more universal... I am betting they will work towards that.

    My 2 year old has also taken to repeating everything I say to the Xbox, which confuses the Xbox. So that's great. But that's use issues, not their fault.

    I definitely like. It interfaces well with the TiVo, the setup was easy, gameplay has been great and the media stuff has been great (though, the Amazon stream downgraded the video an awful lot for my liking) but it hasn't been "flawless."
     
  18. Grakthis

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    What's wrong with leaving the Xbox On all the time? I mean, of course, you turn it off when you're not watching TV. But the design of the One is that, if your TV is on, it's on. This isn't like the 360 where you had to worry about heat and wearing out. It's specifically intended to be always on. Even when it's "off" it's actually just in a stand-by mode. Are you concerned about privacy? Is that the issue?

    I've found that the power-on + login time on my One is actually almost IDENTICAL to the bootup time on my smartTV such that I never actually see the Xbox power on.

    I am having issues getting my One to turn on with voice command though. I keep having to push the button. That hasn't been an inconvenience yet though, cause I walk past it on my way to the couch. It's just confusing.

    I have not had any lag anywhere. Not sure why the One would cause lag on the TiVo.
     
  19. Anthos

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    I'm not concerned about privacy, I'm concerned about energy consumption. I'm also waiting to see that leaving it on doesn't damage the unit itself, despite reports of being designed to "stay on for 10 years." When I start reading more detailed data on the effects of leaving it on I'll reconsider my opinion.

    As for the lag, it is what it is. I don't expect everyone to have the same issues but I know of others having similar problems. Like I said, I expect a patch to address these issues. I'm very glad your experience has been a good one, other than my concerns it has been for me as well.
     
  20. rhettf

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    Well after a weekend with the Xbox One I am ready to share my experience. Overall the Xbox One is a forward thinking box with a lot of potential. There are some bugs though.

    I have my system setup as follows:

    TiVo Mini --> Xbox One --> iScan Duo --> Video only HDMI to TV & Audio only HDMI to AVR

    Setup was very easy, I have some NAT issues with the XB1 but thats a different topic, generally I find both console to not play well with sonicwalls...going to start programming my policies for it after this post.

    I turned on the surround sound option immediately, the picture quality and sound were great with my TiVo Mini, I'm still keeping my TiVo Roamio on its own input for the time being since I have come across a few issues. I did some side by side testing of the picture/sound quality and I really couldn't see it, I should mention I am using a iScan Duo which can work some magic in keeping picture quality top notch.

    First issues: Sometimes the Audio doesn't kick in immediately and the TV Video signal will stutter when I first started using TV.

    Second issue (and the worse): Sometimes the TV App doesn't work whatsoever. I get an error code and the app won't open, then every app stops working too: games, netflix, IE, really everything. The only solution I have found is to physically unplug the Xbox One, since turning it off just puts it in a Standby state. This happened to me twice over the weekend.

    Third issue: Xbox Snap TV is great but I have notice some performance issues depending on the App you have running in the main screen. I was able to play Forza 5 while watching Top Gear without a hiccup. But when using the Avatar generator while watching TV in snap mode I had major stuttering.

    These are some very minor hiccups though and the overall experience is fantastic. I will eventually plug my Roamio directly in once surround sound is out of beta and the performance is more stable. You get the sense you're a beta tester with the xbox one currently.


    Other gripes about the xbox one but not about home theater/TV: setting up chat/game parties are not as intuitive as the xbox 360. Especially with Dead Rising 3, you have to start a party, then one of you needs to start a story mode, then you pause and invite party to game. This worked for us once, but then stopped.

    Kinect sign in really needs to be in a bright room. When my gf setup her profile she was in a dark area on the couch, it was late at night. Now even after she was gone the game would sign me in as her when I sat on the couch! I ended up turning off Kinect sign in for us since the room just isn't bright enough for it to work well. The really annoying part was when I was in a chat party. I would be using a headset plugged into the controller but when it signed in my gf's profile the headset stopped working and chat went to the kinect/speakers. I would have to say Xbox sign in as Rhett and chat would come back into my headset. I assume this was because the xbox though she was holding the controller and maybe if she was holding a different controller chat would still come through my headset. I see how this is suppose to work but it just wasn't because of my kinect sign in issues. The xbox does know who is holding the controller and when you put it down (really awesome for battery life).

    It's odd how the party chat is tided to the game your in. I need to try talking to more people at once in different parties.

    Overall I am very happy with the Xbox One. I actually started regretting my PS4 purchase since I had no desire to take myself out of the Xbox One experience...its okay though I played my ps3 for naughty dog games and exclusives. I'm sure I'll play it when second son or uncharted is out.

    the ps4 is the perfect ps3. The Xbox One picks up where the 360 left off and shows its ready to grow for the future! All of my issues can be fixed via software and its pretty clear how much room there is for the xbox one to grow. The dashboard could use more customization for example, I would love to make folders/Categories in My Games & Apps sorta like a Windows 8 Start screen.

    I give the Xbox One a 8/10. All the groundwork is there but some polishing is needed. In 6 months it will be a 9/10 and in a year 10/10

    Now I got way to many games to play: COD, BF4, Dead Rising 3, Forza 5 on Xbox One. Need For Speed Rivals, Killzone, and AC4 on PS4. I wish I waited on NFS Rivals and AC4 and bought them on my xbox one so I could still use all the other features of the one!
     

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